bigger fireball blast for VBIED car

[Meza82]

although the VBIED suicide cars are very powerful, the explosive blast is not conveyed visually in PR (BF2 limit?); the sound of falling debris from the blast is non-existant at high settings.

to solve this and make PR more realistic, if possible, animating a huge fireball and adding more smoke effects, and by adding sound effects for falling debris from VBIED and louders blast sounds.

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWCUAEFI ... re=related

[rampo]

I really still think the effect is fine as it is, don't forget that all VBIED's are different.

[Lemon]

Yeah well there is a pretty nice explosion on the bomb cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRz3vPn7xWI

Or is that just the APC?

[Meza82]

Yeah well there is a pretty nice explosion on the bomb cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRz3vPn7xWI

Or is that just the APC?

imho that explosion is kind of week without any smoke too. maybe that is a BF2 limitation. otherwise the larger explosions in the game need to be made greater.

[Rudd]

I suppose you''d want big reds effect for all the cars?

[Herbiie]

That'd make VBIEDs too powerful imho, atm they can take out an APC, FB, and damage a tank. The Big Red can clear out the entire VCP.

What would a bigger explosion achieve? The Bomb cars atm are VERY powerful.

[mat552]

Just because he wants a bigger fireball doesn't mean he wants it to do more damage.

[WilsonPL]

more smoke plz, fireball is ok

[Nimise]

A bigger explosion for bomb car would be nice. Right now a grenade has a bigger blast than a bomb car :S

[aperson444]

More smoke and a more "Booming" noise would be better. i'm assuming that the explosive in the car would be about 20 pounds of Semtex (looking at the charge in the back seat). I'm assuming that that's either Iraqi Semtex or Libyan Semtex.

Couldn't find a detonation of Semtex or PETN itself, but this is the detonation of 20 lbs of C4 (could easily fit in the trunk of a car, in the engine, etc.)



Now PETN is inferior in blast speed to RDX, so RDX would be contributing to the speed at which debris flies and sound moves significantly. PETN has a higher RE factor than RDX. It takes 600 grams of PETN to match a kilo of TNT.

This is a video of 14 kg of TNT, equivalent to around 8.4 kg of PETN (in power).



Let's say we have around 10 kg of Semtex (around 20 lbs). The explosion should be slightly orange colored because detonation of RDX and PETN should release NOx gas. Also, the debris should sly out about 20-60 meters minimum. There should be quite a bit of smoke, but all those videos are detonated in ground so dirt contributed to the dust cloud. However, the sound of the current VBIED going off should be more like a grenade at first, then maybe that "airy" sound as the explosion fades away. If its possible, there should be more debris coming from the trunk, since most of the explosive is probably stored in the trunk.

[Herbiie]

just put the code after the = in your YouTube thing.

[theflidgeface]

I suppose you''d want big reds effect for all the cars?

i wouldnt mind that

[killonsight95]

no big red massive effects like JDAM we want sometihng like 2 grenades going off or sometihng or 2 IED's kinda thing

[Priby]

Tbh ive always thought the explosions of the vbied and the bomb truck looked rather small compared to the ones you see on the media.

[503]

Realistically, I think the explosion should be much bigger.

In PR, if the explosion is bigger, then it would be OP. Maybe disable the cars when they take a certain amount of damage?

[Nimise]

Realistically, I think the explosion should be much bigger.

In PR, if the explosion is bigger, then it would be OP. Maybe disable the cars when they take a certain amount of damage?

How would it be OP? All a bigger explosion would do it allow it to attack inf/kill vehicles further than 3cm away.

[McBumLuv]

A fireball would be great. Limiting the armor damaging range to being fairly close by only on the car-bourne IEDs whilst increasing the infantry range and visual effect would be awesome.

[Tim270]

That'd make VBIEDs too powerful imho, atm they can take out an APC, FB, and damage a tank. The Big Red can clear out the entire VCP.

What would a bigger explosion achieve? The Bomb cars atm are VERY powerful.

I think he wants a bigger effect rather than actual damage.