what do you call Base Rape?

[johntheripper711]

Ok me i've done this a few times on muttrah city, where i took a combat engineer kit and mined and c4'ed the ramp that connects to the mec vehicle spawn area, and just that ramp.
Than after i kill a supply truck or apc or more I get called out for base rape.

Now I consider base rape firing into a main, not setting up explosives on one of a few ways out. and note all these people had to do was turn left before the ramp and they would have been fine.

Now the question i have for you guys is what do you consider base rape. because i think this thread should set in stone what it is.

[rushn]

for me Base Rape is when you camp enemy base and kill people

what you did was actually very smart it was their fault for not providing overwatch over their main

[Tim270]

It changes per map and per game mode.

Pretty much baserape I would say is shooting into a main, killing people while they are inside. When a team physically cant leave their main, its too much rape.

Different servers will tell you its different things, although I think it should be defined by the mapper with out of bounds..

[mangeface]

I'd say base rape is where you can kill the people immediately when they spawn at their main. So OP, I wouldn't consider that base rape since they can move around and get vehicles. Camping a FOB wouldn't fall under this category IMPO, since I've done this many times with my squad and racked up massive kills.

[BloodBane611]

Baserape is killing enemies and their vehicles at their spawn points in their main, or while they are operating in an uncappable/out of limits main base (a main base that would realistically be many kilometers away, but has to be on the map due to engine limitations). Blowing people up outside their main because they assume they'll be safe and aren't paying attention is in a bit of a gray zone, but I think on maps like muttrah it's pretty reasonable. At some point people have to be treated as if they are in the combat zone.

[mangeface]

Baserape is killing enemies and their vehicles at their spawn points in their main, or while they are operating in an uncappable/out of limits main base (a main base that would realistically be many kilometers away, but has to be on the map due to engine limitations). Blowing people up outside their main because they assume they'll be safe and aren't paying attention is in a bit of a gray zone, but I think on maps like muttrah it's pretty reasonable. At some point people have to be treated as if they are in the combat zone.

So would you consider camping a FOB a form of base rape?

[HangMan_]

Base rape is a conspiracy made up by sissys. I think if you can't cope with a sniper shooting into your base then maybe you should look into other mods instead of PR. Games can still be fun, even with alleged base rape. Defending a base ingame is actually a lot of fun if you take the time to fight off the enemy before trying to rush out with all the assets. If your getting base raped it just means you failing to defend your base..

My 2c

[bloodthirsty_viking]

I feel a sniper shooting into main is not baserape. i feel placing mines at every way out of the base- not base rape.

I feel auto fire(as in an ak round hitting inside of the out of bounds area) base rape.
i feel arty into main base is base rape..

most types of base rape are stoppable though, and if it only kills infintry, it should be allowed for a set ammount of time before its baserape.


I mean (sure, it was allowed on the server i was on) we were baserapping the americans while playing as insergents.
The americans came back, and started droping a Heckload of crates onto the middle of their mainbase, and smoked the area while doing that, then they grabbed a lat, a hat, and a grenidear, and just started shooting the **** out of the mountians, and then their AR kit set up underneath a building and started randomly hitting the mountians.


So what im trying to say, its not baserape unless it can kill you through cover- as in blowing up vheicals.
The only exception is if there is like, 10 mne inf at your main base just shooting into it at everything.

[RedAlertSF]

Shooting into main, targeting infantry or vehicles. It's rape. JDAM/arty/mortars into main base in the worst kind of baserape. I hate it.

But what about copters and jets? If enemy AAV is 500m away from the main, the jets can't really take off or land, but the AAV is not shooting into base. Is this still baserape? I think it is if AAV's team can't capture the base.

[Lange]

Base rape is a conspiracy made up by sissys. I think if you can't cope with a sniper shooting into your base then maybe you should look into other mods instead of PR. Games can still be fun, even with alleged base rape. Defending a base ingame is actually a lot of fun if you take the time to fight off the enemy before trying to rush out with all the assets. If your getting base raped it just means you failing to defend your base..

My 2c

Yeah defending your main is fun, I did it once when we was the british vs insurgents on Lashkar Valley, they just kept coming in from some random place and it was fun to defend our main since there was so many of them, so it does have its time and place.

However thats the only time i've actually defended the main is that 1 time on that map lol.

[BloodBane611]

So would you consider camping a FOB a form of base rape?

If you're sitting by yourself 100m from an FOB waiting for people to spawn and then shooting them, it's certainly FOB rape. It's abusing the way PR works in a way that makes the game both less fun and less realistic.


As far as base rape goes, I think everyone needs to realize that there are 2 kinds of bases in PR (at least in the context of this discussion):

1) Those meant to portray a base actually present in the combat zone (US/UK mains on Lashkar, Korengal)

2) Bases meant to portray an area far outside the combat zone (all mains on Kashan, Quinling)

Baseraping on #1 is not just okay, it's by design. Baseraping on #2 is totally not okay, and the maps are designed to keep you a reasonable distance from these mains. However, just because you can figure out a way to camp these mains, doesn't mean you should....and admins should seek out and warn/kick/ban players who continuously make the game hell for others.

[[twl]Lan]

This discussion has been done before.

1, Baserape is defined by the server rules.
2, Killing anyone directly on spawn, kills the server population. Hence the "safe spawns in main".
3, Baserape rules are meant to safeguard some fun for everyone involved. It will always depend on the map how this is interpreted. Mining the ramp on Muttrah, sure, that is legal as it is not the only way out of main and the MEC's have every chance of clearing said ramp. However, if the US drops a crate, builds a FoB, a TOW and a cpl of machine gun nests right there overlooking the only exit from MEC main I would call that baserape (if built before the fortress was attackable). Such a act would kill the server.

[LithiumFox]

Agree. Insurgency baserape is good baserape. AAS is usually BAD baserape. :3 (preeeeettyy much. XD)

[Cheditor]

Tbh i think if the main base isnt attackable any form of attack near it, i.e what OP did is base rape. People use the excuse "their fault for not overwatching their main" well ok gonna go back to the old 32 person argument, you have 32 people you generally need all of that to make attacks, have 3 at main doing a really boring job waiting for 1 person who may not even come to lay mines is just silly idea. Because people were having fun attacking objectives is no way to justify attacking a main. Also i think base rape and base camping is the same, if the main is an uncap or not at the cap position, you shouldnt be nowhere near it.

[killonsight95]

the only problem is there arn't enough players to defend main bases properly, this is why i think AI should man AA guns and some of the stationary guns in the main base this IMO would solve alot of the baserape and lets say if you kill like 4-5 of them the enemy team looses 1-2 tickets this would mean that snipers would be fine but you'd need to be pretty ninja to get near enough to place mines etc.
@OP:
baserape is when you destroy enemy vechs/equipment before they've left main or before its the last flag on the ***, also i consider baserape as killing them just as they leave main and abushing them at the enterance beacause in real life you should not be able to attack an enemy base base without great loses.

this is also why i support the idea of insurgents getting their 10 cashes back and lowering the enemy tickets per chase to 15 ish.Then introduce the idea that insurgents loose 1 ticket when they die(in total within the team) 10-15 times.
Not sure if those ticket are hardcoded or not probs are because the DEV's probs would have done it by now

[Epim3theus]

I would consider it lame if not baserape, and the rest what Cheditor said.

[Hitperson]

Ok me i've done this a few times on muttrah city, where i took a combat engineer kit and mined and c4'ed the ramp that connects to the mec vehicle spawn area, and just that ramp.
Than after i kill a supply truck or apc or more I get called out for base rape.

Now I consider base rape firing into a main, not setting up explosives on one of a few ways out. and note all these people had to do was turn left before the ramp and they would have been fine.

Now the question i have for you guys is what do you consider base rape. because i think this thread should set in stone what it is.

well if i were to base this on the PRT rules it would be constituted as basrape as you are sabotaging their vehicles. base rape is not only firing into a base but also preventing assets from leaving an enemies main.

[snooggums]

Base rape is a conspiracy made up by sissys. I think if you can't cope with a sniper shooting into your base then maybe you should look into other mods instead of PR. Games can still be fun, even with alleged base rape. Defending a base ingame is actually a lot of fun if you take the time to fight off the enemy before trying to rush out with all the assets. If your getting base raped it just means you failing to defend your base..

My 2c

On the 4km AAS maps players should be out in the field, not forced to hang around main in case some creative person gets a HAT and a crate and hangs out killing assets for easy points. While some base defense can be fun on insurgency, that is only because insurgents have little to do while the BluFor is roaming around with no idea where caches are on 2km insurgency maps...