Behind Taliban Lines : Real Footage 2009

[stealth420]

For anyone who loves insurgency game mode. Please dont move this thread.

This is about a reporter who went to afganistan and imbedded with the taliban for 2 weeks, He went with them to ambush vehicles of the german forces.

The germans are currently running , or trying to run the northern part of the country, The group of taliban he goes with are focused on killing the german forces.

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Heres the link incase the video doesnt work.

FRONTLINE: behind taliban lines: watch the full program online | PBS

[stealth420]

This is one of the best documentarys i have watched in a while, Please tell me what you think of it ......

[Outlawz7]

Repost, and most can't watch it due view restrictions

[hartbilt]

It was a shame that he got sent away before he could finish out his stay. It was amazing how dumb and disorganized the insurgents are, but brutally effective at times. Footage of their operations taken with an insurgents cell phone, it's humorous. How has this war not ended yet?

[TheLean]

It is view restricted to europe. Damn I hate that...

[dtacs]

It was amazing how dumb and disorganized the insurgents are, but brutally effective at times.

You should proof-read your statements before you post.

The Taliban are one of the most effective guerilla groups in human history, considering how many coalition deaths they cause, how they can change the Afghan people's view on the coalition simply by word of mouth (not to mention getting them to leave their homes and drop their livelyhoods for years), and how they have managed to keep a supply chain going from neighboring countries for 9 years and growing. They have infiltrated areas of the government, and the ANA themselves who are trained to kill them.

There was over 6000 casulties from Taliban IED attacks in 2009 alone and they have said that they are going to increase this as they move into the north and west.source

If you call an Insurgent movement that is costing western countries billions per year stupid then you should go over there and see for yourself how 'dumb and disorganized' they are.

[hartbilt]

You should proof-read your statements before you post.

source

If you call an Insurgent movement that is costing western countries billions per year stupid then you should go over there and see for yourself how 'dumb and disorganized' they are.

UMMMM.... yea i did proof read it, apparently you didn't read it correctly. Are you in support of the insurgents, cuz it sounds like it?? Perhaps you didn't watch this documentary, because these insurgents were dumb and disorganized. But could somehow pull of effective operations sometimes.

You don't really even understand the war or what an Insurgency really is, by essence it is DISORGANIZATION.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban is an opfor in Afghan.and part of the insurgency. the insurgency is comprised of dozens of different miltia/groups/tribes/villages

What the Taliban really has working for them in this war is, HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.


Use the edit button.

[Truism]

Dtacs knows his shit man, and no, if you honestly think you can run a force that can bloody NATO's nose without serious organisational/logistical/administrational skills, you're even dumber than your post suggests.


Edit: Sweet triple post man.

Edit2:

I have an even better idea. Since you seem to know so much about running a military organisation, I'll do you a deal. List everything you would have to organise, with amounts, you would need to run a combat group of 30 people, as they would need to be equipped to conduct, say a single firefight a day.

If you can do that, then honestly look at half of what's on that list and tell me the people running the Insurgency are idiots for being able to do that for, at best estimates, 20,000 fighters spread from Pakistan to Iraq, with the might of the modern western world trying to stop them, then I'd invite you to write a letter explaining how to beat them, or how to make our operations efficient enough to, because you're better at running wars than anyone involved in any war going back as far as history goes.

Yes, this is a flame post. I accept that I might be infringed for it.

You are an idiot talking about things you clearly don't understand in the slightest bit.

[hartbilt]

In the show the insurgents are tasked with setting up an road side ambush with 2 120mm radio activated IEDs, which the insurgents couldn't get to detonate ( i'm assuming because the passing convey was using a freq. jammer). Then the insurgents get in an debate about it, the one guy with the detonators says " look the remote is broken, it doesn't work" he then presses the button and the shells go off. It was Humorous. Then the insurgents go back and lie to the leader, telling him that the ambush was a success.

[rampo]

UMMMM.... yea i did proof read it, apparently you didn't read it correctly. Are you in support of the insurgents, cuz it sounds like it?? Perhaps you didn't watch this documentary, because these insurgents were dumb and disorganized. But could somehow pull of effective operations sometimes.

You don't really even understand the war or what an Insurgency really is, by essence it is DISORGANIZATION.

In Afghanistan, The Taliban and the Insurgents are not the same thing, the Taliban is an opfor in Afghan. but the insurgency is comprised of dozens of different groups/tribes/villages

What the Taliban really has working for them in this war is, HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.

Use the edit function instead of triple posting please

[Truism]

Cool story bro.

Do you think that sort of thing doesn't happen in Western armies.


Soldiers lie to their superiors to cover their arses, it's a fact that any serving member or ex-serving member on the forum can confirm. The scale of the lies might be different, but at the end of the day the principle is the same.

"No matter what your soldiers tell you, it was NOT like that when it was issued."


(Edit: Are you/were you a SEAL?)

[hartbilt]

DID YOU WATCH THIS SHOW? I'M not talking in reference to the TALIBAN main force, I am referring to these particular insurgents that were profiled in this program.

Just watch this and I bet you will say, "wow, these guys aren't very bright, and pretty disorganized"

[Sniperdog]

"Why wont the bomb work"
"I dont know you told me to press D and it doesnt work"
*Presses D*
*Muffled Boom*
*They all just look at each other*


I lol'd...

[karambaitos]

What the Taliban really has working for them in this war is, HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.

Have you heard of this button on the lower right its says edit.... maybe you should try using it -_-

also stop getting into arguments the forums are littered with your double/triple posts.

Also, sadly I cant watch it.

[dtacs]

Are you in support of the insurgents, cuz it sounds like it?? Perhaps you didn't watch this documentary, because these insurgents were dumb and disorganized. But could somehow pull of effective operations sometimes.

You don't really even understand the war or what an Insurgency really is, by essence it is DISORGANIZATION.

You should stop posting this sort of stuff before the higher-ups stop you themselves. Disorganization involves lack of command structure, lack of logistics and lack of personnel training. All of which the Taliban do have.

They have a command structure and all that jazz operating in provinces all over Afghanistan. They have logistical chains than span as far as Romania, as Romanian AK's have been found in weapons caches before (mostly the AK's with the wooden foregrip) and artillery shells from Iran (from what I've heard, cannot 100% confirm that).

As for training, there are books and magazines distributed over Afghanistan teaching how to use RPG's, develop IED's from common household products (including Ammonium Nitrate, a common fertilizer that was only banned at the dawn of the year) and load, unload, operate, field-strip, and clean every AK from the Soviet Union to China. If anyone has seen that doco with the guy embedded with a Pakistani unit on the boarder then you will know what I mean.

Here is an example.......

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... ahomar.pdf

....Which further demonstrates command in the Taliban, a book of rules if you will.

If a local of foreign enemy is captured, they should be taken to the provincial authority immediately. The provincial authority will make a decision on what to do with the captured enemy.

Its quite an ingenious system for an insurgency really, they have the local/state/federal leaders decide on what is to be done with captured personnel and assets, to avoid unrest between the 'grunts' per se, for example a captured Humvee would be the decision of a higher-up instead of the Taliban who captured it.

Hypothetically, if I was a supporter/sympathizer of the Insurgency in Afghanistan and Iraq, what would you say?

[Truism]

How has this war not ended yet?

Are you in support of the insurgents, cuz it sounds like it??

You don't really even understand the war or what an Insurgency really is, by essence it is DISORGANIZATION.

Quotes referencing the fact that you don't understand what you're talking about, and weren't just talking about these Insurgents.

[Dunehunter]

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... lines.html

Learn to use the search and edit functions folks.