civilian only vehicle

[XxxGrANdmA]

as of right now, civis can be shot while driving a car, truck, or any vehicles the ins have acsess to. This sucks because if I want to get close to an enemy vehicle, I'll just get killed. I know that you can just park the vehicle out of site from the enemy, then wait 2 minutes so they get a punishment for shooting you , but by the time the 2 mins is up, the enemy may have already moved. So it can be annoying sometimes. My suggestion is to add a vehicle (maybe a civi car that's a different color from the rest) that only civis can drive. The civi would also be safe from enemy fire as you wouldn't be allowed to kill him. Since it'd be a unique color, the blufor need not worry for the chance it could be a bomb car so there would be no reason to shoot. Maybe only civis could be allowed into the car(so no insurgents). This could represent civis that are just carrying on their dailly lives that have nothing to do with the insurgency. I know they're called colaborators but still, there are some civilians out there that have nothing to do with the terrorists. Benefits of this suggeation is that it provides civis with a safe means of transport and also it would just require someone to changethe color of a few cars. Sorry if this post is abit hard to follow because I'm pretty tired now. It's almost midnight but I just wanted to get this idea down b4 I forgot.

Edit: I think that bicycle would be the best option for civis cause of the reasons people have posted such as it can't be used to run over people plus it can't have any threat to the blufor cause its just bike. Plus, even if it got to close, the blufor could just shoot it. I'm just suggesting that civis don't be shot just because they are using vehicles. Honestly, if you saw a civi trying to carry out his daily life on a BIKE, and was 300 meters away from you, would you really shoot him?

[ZephyrDark]

Maybe a car that is in better shape and can only carry like one civi or something. However, there'd have to be a way to prevent them from being abused, i.e.) roadkilling, area blocking, etc. as the BluFor wouldn't be allowed to kill them, they could just sit somewhere or charge over people without worry.

[myles]

I think this would be good as civis could do a bit of scouting without getting shot.

[mangeface]

This sounds like a Marine Corps suggestion.

If it makes sense, don't do it.

If it doesn't, do it.

I feel like this will be overlooked. But it is a great idea for those who use the civi kits. I personally don't.

[Killer-Ape]

Why are you allowed to kill them for 2 minutes after they get out of an unarmed car?

Surely a civilian would get out of their car if shot at (ie, a warning shot) and raise their hands to show they are unarmed? How is it then legal to shoot them?

I think the two minute penalty is for this scenario:

If a collaborator tries to run you over and you shoot and wound him critically….
He can now jump out and die from bleeding wound without you getting any penalties.

Without the two minute penalty rule you always get the “shot civilian penalty” if he decides to exit the car and bleed out.

[TheOldBreed]

one of the main 'downsides' to COIN operations is the blurring lines between hostile combatants and non-combatants. civilians get killed all the time man, it's shitty but it happens.

i think having a select car that the civilian can drive so the BLUFOR guys are like "oh hey, he's in that car so it's cool, he's just leave him to go on his merry way " would pretty much derive away from the whole reality aspect of PR. anything's a threat man, you can't know for sure. sheeyit, i'm one of those guys who puts a round into a collaborator when i see one 'cause it's fun, they're not real and it sure as hell saves the hastle of chasing him with a cable tie. it's just the way it is man.

but good suggestion though, i see where you're coming from

[ytman]

Anyone who played Fallujah West in 0.8 era should remember the Red Cross SUV car.

I miss that SUV. ;_;

[PLODDITHANLEY]

Yes made the same noise as the HUmvee, hid from that so many times.

[0331SgtSpyUSMC]

If I see vehicle approaching towards my sq or a unit I'm not taking a chance. I rather get penalized for killing a civi, then find out the hard way of being ran over/ blown up etc. That's ROE for you.

So even if the "civi only" car was to be made, you would still get killed. As you called "civis" have no business of driving up to the coalition forces. They can look from a distance all they want and relay info to the rest of team just as good.

[mosinmatt]

You only have to wait one minute.....
get in thte car...drive...hope not to get killed....park and hide....then be a meat shield

[XxxGrANdmA]

maybe you can shoot the car if it's like 75 meters close to you. But other than that you cnt kill it as it poses no threat to ur life

[rushn]

BICYCLE!!!!

[bloodthirsty_viking]

i like the idea, have it look like the bomb-non bomb cars, that way you knever know if its a civi or not, it can be used for many purpuses =P

[goguapsy]

Why don't we make the unnarmed gary only drivable by civilians?

Then they could scare the hell out of the tank drivers

[myles]

Why don't we make the unnarmed gary only drivable by civilians?

Then they could scare the hell out of the tank drivers

we do have an unarmed gary lol

I think this suggestion is great as it would make it realistic as it could be seen as civis flleing a batlle zone. yeah also make it that certian amount of meters you can fire on the civi car

[ret1]

I'm all for the bicycle suggestion. Peddling it would use up stamina so you couldn't keep up with engine powered vehicles. If you tried to run someone over, it wouldn't kill them!

I think bicycles for civillians is the best idea! Lets see it get done!

[dunem666]

I think a Volvo 340 GL would do the trick.

[rushn]

I'm all for the bicycle suggestion. Peddling it would use up stamina so you couldn't keep up with engine powered vehicles. If you tried to run someone over, it wouldn't kill them!

I think bicycles for civillians is the best idea! Lets see it get done!

Forgoten Hope 2 has bicycles iam sure there is a model floating around somewhere

maybe get difftenr versions like 6 speed and mountain bikes for Afghanistan!