BLU-82

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-11 21:59

As an area attack the BLU-82 commando vault 15,000lb FAE would fit the role very nicely imo as it could have a simmilar blast to the Jdam.

TheOldBreed · Post by **TheOldBreed** » 2010-05-12 22:17

ha jesus, a 'similar blast' to the JDAM? the biggest JDAM is 2000lbs man. the daisy cutter would be 'a lot' bigger than that

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-12 23:13

actually it has a blast radius of up to 300 meters

however there is a two thousand pounder the BLU-96

DevilDog812 · Post by **DevilDog812** » 2010-05-12 23:21

cant delete for some reason

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-12 23:24

delete what?

foob · Post by **foob** » 2010-05-14 02:01

a good suggestion but were they really used commonly in that sort of context? i could see it being a heavy area attack for the time, but wat about its slowed decent will that be replicated in game or will we just see a big boom like a jdam in regular pr? and another problem is its deployment, as u can see in the video above the thing is so big it has to be slid out of the back of a c130, so its not dropped like a conventional bomb... the amount of time it would have taken to rig up a c130 in real life to fly in and drop a 15,000lb giant would be quite significant, a time far greater than calling in a jdam today.. i highly doubt they were frequently called in during a firefight

and lets not forget the blu82 has been replaced by the MOAB of today, not by a jdam

TheOldBreed · Post by **TheOldBreed** » 2010-05-14 13:47

they were using daisy cutters in the opening stages of OEF-A in 2001, taking out Taliban defensive lines and positions. thought i'd throw that in haha

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-15 00:31

foob wrote:and lets not forget the blu82 has been replaced by the MOAB of today, not by a jdam

but i'm talking about almost 50 years ago... and yes it would take considerable time but one would assume that BLU-82's were already palletized and Just needed to be dragged intothe hold and then fly over, what about B-52 strikes (Arc Light), the time it takes to load up with 70,000 lbs or bombs (140 Mk 82's or 70 Mk 83's) thats gonna take longer as each bomb would be loaded one at a time unless they use multiple loading vehicles.

Considering how long it takes for a JDAM In PR to become available when air support was almost instantaneous in Vietnam I think it would be rather befitting of the larger maps and considering that there are no crater effects (in PR or that the bomb creates one) even better due to the time waited although artillery strikes available as much as they were in "Hills of hamyong" would fit rather nice too they were every 5 minutes (iirc?)

TheOldBreed wrote:they were using daisy cutters in the opening stages of OEF-A in 2001, taking out Taliban defensive lines and positions. thought i'd throw that in haha

didnt they use a C-17 to drop multiple 82's along the kajaki ridge? or some ridge line

TheOldBreed · Post by **TheOldBreed** » 2010-05-15 14:18

Hitman.2.5 wrote:didnt they use a C-17 to drop multiple 82's along the kajaki ridge? or some ridge line

i think so, i'd have to go root around for my Task Force Dagger book haha

chagadiel · Post by **chagadiel** » 2010-05-20 10:44

they where generaly used for makeing instant landing zones in in hospitable terrain. the daisy cutter would explode above the ground blowing all the trees away with leaving a giant crater in the ground.

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-21 23:21

To the above poster I know exactly what the BLU-82 does and was used for, and you know they don't leave a crater or much of one because that would defeat the object of creating an LZ for choppers to land on...

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2010-05-22 00:34

Indeed - so what would they be for in PR? Can't use them in thier intended role, as environments/trees are not destructable.

From what I understand the BLU-82 was not used in the anti-personell role by US forces during the Vietnam conflict, only for its intended "instant LZ" capability.

chagadiel · Post by **chagadiel** » 2010-05-22 10:35

yes sorry i missed out the word out in the state ment changeing its meaning intirely

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-23 14:14

very good point bob, I was aware that trees are not destructible and that they didn't use them in an offensive manner, I thought about the JDAM in PR and its large blast is all and the daisy cutter had a large blast, in fact come to think of it the "Fat Albert" seems like a better idea

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2010-05-24 03:51

Hitman.2.5 wrote:very good point bob, I was aware that trees are not destructible and that they didn't use them in an offensive manner, I thought about the JDAM in PR and its large blast is all and the daisy cutter had a large blast, in fact come to think of it the "Fat Albert" seems like a better idea

The Vietnam era equivelant of the JDAM in PR would, in my opinion, be the GBU-8 guided glide bomb. Introduced in 1967, it was a 2000lb guided bomb - more or less what JDAM is, just with more primitive technology (using a TV based guidance system rather than GPS).

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2010-05-24 19:37

'[R-MOD wrote:Bob_Marley;1350616']The Vietnam era equivelant of the JDAM in PR would, in my opinion, be the GBU-8 guided glide bomb. Introduced in 1967, it was a 2000lb guided bomb - more or less what JDAM is, just with more primitive technology (using a TV based guidance system rather than GPS).

(The AGM-62 walleye 250lb tv guided glide bomb looks similar to the maverick)

The "Fat Albert" (walleye II) 2000lb TV guided glide bomb, practically the same thing, no?

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