Dressings for insurgensy

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samogon100500
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Dressings for insurgensy

Post by samogon100500 »

Hello!
My suggestion very easy - take to insurgents field dressings(For all armed)!
It's look very realistic cuz every one can put one into pocket!
I think insurgents can be use civilian version of field dressings with +15hp(Military have +20hp or 80-100hp if 3 dressings use on critical damage)

I sugggest that because taliban and hamas have more capabilities(hideouts,rallypoints etc) that INS and BLUFOR(But no have optical sights)!
And of course - I saw many threads,where suggest something for BLUFOR,and rarely for INS,but it's ideas have better chances for BLUFOR! :evil:
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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just think about it the iraqi insurgents arent as organsied as taliban hamas there basiccly ppl of the street fighting with weapons. I even doubt alot of taliban are issued field dressings so it wont be that relistic if the iraqi insuregtns get them
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samogon100500
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by samogon100500 »

if you say about level of organize - they have himself dressings!
What you do,if you have pierced artery and you no have any dressing?I think you get T-shirt,jacket or something similar and use it as dressing!And i think you have any dressings in your home(INS have home right?),why INS can't take that on the battle?
And of course they have big big dressing in hes head =)
So need any examples how?
I think INS must have some dressings,but less effective!
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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dressings on par with other teams? no

though I'd accept something like "ripped clothing" to be used as bandages that heal only around 10-15 %
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by goguapsy »

[R-CON]Rudd wrote: though I'd accept something like "ripped clothing" to be used as bandages that heal only around 10-15 %
I agree. I was actually wondering if the OP even knew what was the field dressing all about... it's nothing but a band-aid.
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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[R-CON]Rudd wrote:dressings on par with other teams? no

though I'd accept something like "ripped clothing" to be used as bandages that heal only around 10-15 %
Actually similar dressing use in WW2 by sovet army,cuz in first years of VOV(translate.Great Patriotic War(1941-1945) - sovet step of WW2)use "ripped clothing" dressings,cuz they no have any better dressings sometimes!But after LandLease situation back to normal!
Am not about standart military dressings,am about civilian versions or "ripped clothing" dressings!
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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[R-CON]Rudd wrote:dressings on par with other teams? no

though I'd accept something like "ripped clothing" to be used as bandages that heal only around 10-15 %
this is a really good idea... is it possible in the bf2 engine to like heal your self only 10-15% with out dropping the "patch" on the ground? because if it is, then you could have an annimation of like tying cloth around your leg/arm...and that would heal you...possible?

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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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samogon100500 wrote: And i think you have any dressings in your home(INS have home right?),why INS can't take that on the battle?
I have a home but i certinaly do not have any field dressings lol
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by Silly_Savage »

I would love it if each insurgent had some means in which to heal themselves, no matter how much.

Anything is better than the feeling of bleeding out knowing that your only means of getting healed is either by the elusive civilian or by knicking a BLUFOR kit and praying it still has a bandage.
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Zrix
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by Zrix »

Silly_Savage wrote:I would love it if each insurgent had some means in which to heal themselves, no matter how much.

Anything is better than the feeling of bleeding out knowing that your only means of getting healed is either by the elusive civilian or by knicking a BLUFOR kit and praying it still has a bandage.
Or the Cell Leader - he gets 3 of them.
That's the main reason why I pick that kit when I SL on INS. It's a huge help for the squad, especially when there's ammo nearby.
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myles wrote:just think about it the iraqi insurgents arent as organsied as taliban hamas
you'd be surprised
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Post by 0331SgtSpyUSMC »

samogon100500 wrote: what you do,if you have pierced artery and you no have any dressing?
If that happens I don't care what you do, chances are you are done. If you happen to have some quick clot then you might have a chance :)

I do think that having a dressing for insurgency would be a good idea as long as it's not as effective as BLUEFOR :) 10/15% as mentioned above would be great, sometimes just to simply stop the bleeding after hoping over the fence.
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Post by Arnoldio »

A cloth or something along those lines with only 15 % repair wouldnt hurt indeed.
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by Bringerof_D »

a man who has nothing has dressings. you all have to remember that the field dressing is only a model used for conventional forces, a dressing is anything and everything that can stop bleeding. a "field" dressing is just a term to define a dressing in a military packaging.

i agree with the op all factions need dressings, we don't even need a new model that's just aesthetics. give them dressings i don't even care if it's healing is lowered by comparison. if i was shot i could dress it with my sock and bandage it down with me rifle sling. this has been brought up countless times before but always shot down by idiots who think only conventional armies can get dressings < NO these idiots are very very wrong a dressing is, a t shirt, a towel, a piece of curtain, a roll of toilet paper, any piece of cloth you can get your fingers on. sterile is irrelevant when your plan is to die before the end of the week for what you believe in.
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

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a man who has nothing has dressings. you all have to remember that the field dressing is only a model used for conventional forces, a dressing is anything and everything that can stop bleeding. a "field" dressing is just a term to define a dressing in a military packaging.
you are wrong, a field dressing is superior to your sweat ridden, baterial permeated sock. A non-sterile innappropriate dressing stems blood flow yes, but if its a rough material it may cause more damage, and could cause complications such as an infection, and the dressings come in standard sizes so that you can be sure you have enough slack. We can't ofc show that in PR with forcing a player to lie in a bed for a couple of weeks until healed...but we can make field dressings more effective than your stupid sock...

Not all clothing is designed to stem blood flow you know...

if ins got ripped clothing dressings I'd even suggest that the deploy animation is quite long to show the insurgent ripping clothing or whatever.
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maarit
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by maarit »

maybe just painkillers to take that bleeding effect off...
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by alberto_di_gio »

I'm all with stop bleeding. No need to have dressing field like BLUFOR that is acceptable but I'm pretty sure they also have socks, leafs, dust or whatever to stop bleeding. Walking to death in screams and blood because u get a scratch on you leg is pretty annoying.
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by Jigsaw »

This is a re-suggestions lads, if the Devs felt that it is right and proper for insurgents to get patches then they would.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-bf2-suggestions/73990-insurgent-medics-collaborator-kit.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-bf2-suggestions/70590-tourniquet-2.html
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by Rudd »

maarit wrote:maybe just painkillers to take that bleeding effect off...
you wouldn't give pain killers until the casualty was stable as the risk of shock is too high, and the casualty wouldn't be in a state to keep fighting if you had to tbh.
what you do,if you have pierced artery and you no have any dressing?
if you have a arterial wound its tourniqet time, might lose the leg, and save the body but arterial wounds are very serious.
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Re: Dressings for insurgensy

Post by badmojo420 »

I'm of the opposite opinion to the OP. I would like to see the conventional kits field dressing be made unusable by the insurgents. So they couldn't just pick up an American kit and sit on the cache dropping dressings. Also, the healing ability of the vehicle depot should be removed. I liked insurgency better when medical supplies were very limited.

Of course it sucks when you start to bleed out, but it puts you into a different state of mind, it's all or nothing, you live or die. Back in older version, if I start to bleed out, I would rush at the enemy and try to take as many down with me as I can. That "all or nothing" feeling was something that set the insurgent faction apart from the rest of the game(and other games in general) and in my eyes it made the game more fun. Asymmetry for the win.
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