Soviet warfare

[HAAN4]

Dudes, what's the poitn????

the russians in game fight like americans. and the chinese 2.

a cool stuff in PR is the diferent combat stilys of each nation, so we need a kind of Soviet stile of war.

Russia is famous for trowing ALOT of conscripts into a fight and overhelming then, of course they got Shock troops and espcial forçes, but they use a extessive brute forçe and front line stuff to make a real fight.

China will be evem far more Front liner, because they have so many Manpower, that i will not suprise to see WW3 whicht melle combat, and marines geting in hand to hand combat. after all china may have a powerfull industry. but even this industry cannot give enough equipement to all they man power.

so the point is. make China and russia and any Soviet doutrined Nation get advatage about front line combat. and here some sugestions to do so.

Russia got 2 rally points, and squad are forced use concript kits, hoever since russia use a bit more quality that quantity compared to china the ammount of conscript kit forced to players carry out is 2, also conscripts have no ticket's, if they die. the team loose nothing. so pess on.

China got 3 rally point, and autmost all the squad is conscripts. they got only a AR kit, and no medic. all other are conscripts whicht AK47, they can grab Regular kits at suply crates, like medics and evem scoped rifles. but once they get decent gear they become again willing to take tickets to 0.

also instead of having alot of APCs, hunve and other OTAN shiet. they recive extra Heavy Armored vehicles, like MBT. they MBT may be a bit inferior, but they ticket count is less. 8 tickets per tank soviet tank. they also have ltile or no trasport helicopters, if they have one in map it shall be one transport helicopter, and china is very low about deploing helicopters. but ALL soviet vehicles are more enough to kick *** OTAN ones, has long the crew kwon what they are doing.

Soviet warfare also don't use Jeaps, not at last much jeaps, istead they use Trucks, a extessive use of trunks.

Bassicle the Soviet nations will overhelm the enemy, whicht Insane ammounghts of troops spawn, when the OTAN try to use tatics to it advantage. but remenber. not all Soviet soldiers are coscripts. so soviets might try to get OTAN overconfident and then trow alot of MBT or Regular soldiers to kick they asses out.

also Soviets get 60 to 40 players, what encourage ever more front line and overhelming tatics.

nunbers are up to change, but this is just to give you the ideia of soviet warfare. after all, not all guys around the world fight like OTAN.

[Rudd]

Soviet warfare

Dissolution of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The weakening of the Soviet government led to a series of events that eventually caused the dissolution of the Soviet Union, a gradual process that took place from about January 19, 1990, to December 31, 1991. This process was characterized by many of the Soviet Socialist Republics declaring their independence and being recognized as sovereign nation-states.

Stalingrad was a long time ago mate

[Howitzer]

I don't think the number of players per can be modded , its AB or not.

I like the idea , its more or less like with the insurgents, they have more spawns, tickets , lower respawn times, poor layout.

[HAAN4]

Rudd;1360003']Dissolution of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Stalingrad was a long time ago mate

yeah i kwon, but the point is, China.

russians might be not the ones how trow has many meat they can into battle, but it's very like of then do so. at least a litle.

China would certaly do this. after all. they got the meat to do so.

[Beowulf2525]

Having conscript kits would horribly unbalance the game. Why bother going for a kit worth points if you can die without your team losing anything? I wouldn't care if my K/D suddenly became 1/213. In the end, the team would win without losing a ticket because their lives wouldn't be worth anything.

[Dev1200]

Do you have realistic background information to prove these points?

[Sidewinder Zulu]

The Russian and Chinese armies today are small enough that they can equip each individual soldier with a fairly good amount of high-quality weaponry and equipment.

The US may have some advantages technologically, but it's not like the average Russian or Chinese soldier is a dumb farmer who's given a gun, uniform, some ammo, and told to kill enemies.

That was the case during World War Two, but the circumstances were different then, ie. few weapons, not enough facilities to train, lack of education, etc.

[HAAN4]

Having conscript kits would horribly unbalance the game. Why bother going for a kit worth points if you can die without your team losing anything? I wouldn't care if my K/D suddenly became 1/213. In the end, the team would win without losing a ticket because their lives wouldn't be worth anything.

the problem is, maybe we can make the oficier cost significant tickets, like 5.

or also a rally point deployment cost of tickets.

or even 5 conscripts = 1 tickets.

they may be numeros, but they aren't unlimited a no mistake.

we can also do they have more tickets istead of not losing they. that's going to balace things in a very simples way.

and also concript layout will be diferent for both china and Russia. while china give they autmost nothing, russia will give a gear autmost indentical they regular soldiers, but they loose acuracy and don't carry scope.

I kwon that russia will not trow so many meat, but trust me. if things get bad. is what they will do. well is what everone do.

[sylent/shooter]

bad Idea IMO. The way PR works now suits modern warfare at it's finest. There is no "throwing" tactics anymore. It just doesn't happen. Russia and China are military forces to be reckoned with not just militia. Which again IMO this would make them like militia. Keep it the way PR is now. Of course things can be tweaked but this would just ruin the game.

[sweedensniiperr]

Russia is famous for trowing ALOT of conscripts into a fight and overhelming then, of course they got Shock troops and espcial forçes, but they use a extessive brute forçe and front line stuff to make a real fight.

am i the only one who gets red alert wibes from this?

[CastleBravo]

Screw the conscripts and the shock troops, I want a Tanya kit.

[karambaitos]

The Russian and Chinese armies today are small enough that they can equip each individual soldier with a fairly good amount of high-quality weaponry and equipment.

The US may have some advantages technologically, but it's not like the average Russian or Chinese soldier is a dumb farmer who's given a gun, uniform, some ammo, and told to kill enemies.

That was the case during World War Two, but the circumstances were different then, ie. few weapons, not enough facilities to train, lack of education, etc.

Russias military isnt huge but the PLA certainly is they have 3,440,000 active and
12mil reserve
sauce

IMO something like this would be completely game braking and servers would most likely just stop playing maps with those factions also the game would become like COD

[HAAN4]

am i the only one who gets red alert wibes from this?

No it don't comes from there, well not the main ideia. it come from geografic books that say China rold 2 bilions of s souls. and the train childres in kung fu. for what? to when war happens they trow has many meat they can in the enemy, madness in modern war fare? yeah, fuction? no douth.

The modern war fare is't much diferent from other Ages. it's basicle Alot of meat, tons of steal and yet more and more tons of gunpowerder. and this is the Soviet war fare.

Has i say in previus things i repeat my self, russian will not get so many conscripts and russian conscripts will be also better equiped. the real meat shield will be the chinese conscript, whicht no boby armor, AK47, a bainet, shovel, and nothing else.

so the most poor laulout in the game. hoever. elite troops may build up a tatical atack when the conscripts make a distration.

[HAAN4]

Screw the conscripts and the shock troops, I want a Tanya kit.

nahh we alerdy can be john rambo whicht AR kit.

[HAAN4]

Russias military isnt huge but the PLA certainly is they have 3,440,000 active and
12mil reserve
sauce

IMO something like this would be completely game braking and servers would most likely just stop playing maps with those factions also the game would become like COD

that depend how well the balace will be. conscripts will not scary OTAN forçes because they got BAD *** automatic rifleman kits. also other equipement may be deploy to do the balace.

repeat my self, the quality of this stuff will be Real balacement chalege. but what we won? some real action, and more reality. after all. you make chinese fight like Yanques. and this is't true.

but no douth i got to admint, if anything go out control that tipe of game will sucks alot.

[Bellator]

Soviet warefare of the 1940s, the human waves, incompetent command and lack of equipment was the result of economic conditions, I.e scarcity of equipment, lack of competent commanding officers (resulting from stalins purges) and nazi devastation of the Soviet armies in the early stages of the war.
Essentially, men were more abundant than guns and people had to be deployed ASAP to meet the Nazi threat, often with minimal training as skilled and competent trainers were scarce.

none of these conditions apply to modern russia and china. in neither case are weapons and equipment more valuable than trained soldiers. And even conscripts can be put to far better use than human wave tactics, which are now outdated.

[Saobh]

Humm I believe you confused these forums with BF1942

Everyone knows Russians will be invading riding on polar bears !

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[Eddiereyes909]

This thread is locked. Sorry OP, but warfare changes, and it you would like to make a suggest make one that makes sense.