[Help] ideas for a Chinese UK invasion map/maps

[Lange]

Hello all,

I wanted to make a post to get community ideas on a map scenario i've been thinking of. Recently i've began to learn how to map and thought it would be a cool idea to do a armored fury type scenario and have the Chinese bring the war to the British in Britain, and also I thought of possibly expanding/redoing the armored fury concept with possibly the US and Canadians in Alaska but that's another project on the deck.

As I learn mapping and such im getting the pre planning of the scenario down and need some ideas on the landscape after some thought and research I need ideas on possibly a beach map that involves The Brits staged on land and the Chinese making a landfall in central England to attempt to get to the capital:

Or since im not sure if there's a Chinese ship model available possibly a map that's on land in a area by London as shown:




Bottom line: Im aiming for a map that has a reasonable scenario so thinking about it in military terms a map the details where they are attacking and why they are attacking if they would commit such resources to a attack a strategic point in other words.

I made a map on how they might get there which would obvious be difficult in real life terms but however they get there nontheless lol either way A in red or way B in black:



Finally im not sure on if it it will just be 1 map or a few maps probably planning on 1 map for now to sorta "introduce" the whole thing and I would have the following questions to ask to someone with military tactical knowledge or of the sort:

-Is it feasible to land far down on the continent or further north?

-Is attacking the Capital of a country a feasible reason for invasion?

-Other reasons for invasion?

-Need details on Landscapes coastline landscapes basically places closer to shore or whatever you think might work.

Basically:Just need ideas on a Chinese UK invasion map that fits within a reasonable "political scenario"

Thanks guys if I can get some ideas and get this going should be a awsome project

[Rudd]

Or since im not sure if there's a Chinese ship model available possibly a map that's on land in a area by London as shown:

there isnt, paratroopers are your best bet

we don't have ANY British statics - so heavily urbanised areas are not feasible

-Other reasons for invasion?

in PR, we're at war...so I guess thats enough

Frankly mate, I would NOT pursue this project. with thelack of statics etc its not really feasible to have Chinese dudes invading Britain, especially since Russia is there and the Russian stance on a Chinese invasion force going around it would be odd.

You can however go down a similar route to that one I've been messing around with, and that is using alot of the booster pack statics to try and reproduce a reasonably english countryside, to be invaded by Russian paratroopers. I've barely started on that kind of map myself, but it seems far more realistic than a Chinese sea bourne assault.


DOWNSIDE - you need 3dsmax to lightmap xp statics.
xp2_bungalow_02 for example looks like the average village bungalow in east england. The Russian house statics aren't so bad for farmhouses, with a reskin they'd be perfect tbh. Theres alot of farm related objects to use as well.



Alternatively, talk to teh Australian Defence Forced Team, maybe a Chinese invasion of Australia

[gazzthompson]

I live near norwich, why the hell would the chinese wanna evade here ? we got a fair few US and UK bases in region tho.

off the top of my head, 2 US airforce bases, 1 RAF and 2 army. need any info on the region i should be able to help.

[Wakain]

-Is it feasible to land far down on the continent or further north?

-Is attacking the Capital of a country a feasible reason for invasion?

in northern UK (or scotland) there are a lot of large naval bases, apart from the threat of land-based aircraft this would mean quite a challenge for an invasion fleet(of which a lot would be mere transport craft)

it's a weird scenario as british and commonwealth troops are busy fighting china on their hometurf, but as it's all fictional, ok you could go for it.
I would advise(also because this probably your first grand project) to go for an airborne skirmish in the countryside.
possibly chinese infantry with little vehicle support vs. british infantry with an apc, but this is more or less to be decided by the devs so don't worry much about it. keeping in mind airborne vs light motorized would be enough I guess.

still, be free to do how you please, but take rudd's advice to create a countryside battle instead of larger urban combat as british statics would need to be created completely from scratch. for some more western european statics, try talking to the dutch forces lead when you've got some progress because they required some western european statics for a map of theirs as well

good luck!

[H.sta]

With the lack of statics such as houses roadsigns, walls, etc. i suggest you should rather check with the community factions, and hear if any one of them need a map(they do)

this way you will be able to make a map, have a bit better support and make a map that is needed, instead of making a map, then hoping someone wants it after you are done

but ofcourse if you really want to make such a map, there is nothing stopping you. I would play it.

[Pronck]

Yes, give the British Forces the look that they only have the remainings of the Army which are figthing in Asia, so don't give them a large force of challengers. But some smaller APCs and maybe one ligt armed Lynx.

Maybe you could make a beach and airborne mission, where the chinese already had a small perimiter on the British Mainland(A few demolished old bunkers and trenches, with some old transport vehicles). So you have a beach spawn , and a airborne spawn more West in the map.

So the assets will look like this;

British Armed Forces;
2 "Light" APCs
1/2 Supply Trucks
2 Land Rovers
2 Transport Trucks
and maybe one armed Lynx.

PLA;
1 Stolen Supply Truck (British Skin with PLA Emblems on it).
1 Stolen Trans Truck
1 Light armored Jeep (That are possible to be dropped by a plane in RL)
2 Stolen Transport Pickups/Station Cars.


So the British have more firepower, but when you make de PLA able to spawn airborne for a long time, they will have the element of surprise which is the best you could have in PR as paratroopers.

Map;
Make sure it's near the coast, so you have more possibilities.

[Hitman.2.5]

I live near norwich, why the hell would the chinese wanna evade here ? we got a fair few US and UK bases in region tho.

off the top of my head, 2 US airforce bases, 1 RAF and 2 army. need any info on the region i should be able to help.

not to mention the slow pace it would be if they go through the damn marshes...

it will be tough since we got bases in the other counties around east Anglia, Conningsby, Waddington in lincs and then Cottesmore to the south there will be Alot of air power not to mention the US air bases in Germany its only a quick flight over the north sea :S

[Rudd]

not to mention the slow pace it would be if they go through the damn marshes...

at least they'd get a chance to taste the Samphire! that stuff is great

[Hitman.2.5]

[quote=""'[R-CON"]Rudd;1379148']at least they'd get a chance to taste the Samphire! that stuff is great [/quote]

LOLOLOLOL

considering we have a only 9'500 personel in Astan and in january 150 personel in Iraq we have considerable amounts of troops in the UK, small country and motorways we can be in east anglia with in 4 or 5 hours from john o groats or just a few from lands end.

And tbh we still have a fair few naval/airforce surface/air radar systems left from the cold war that would ping any thing comming up the channel (plus Plymouth/Portsmouth [heavy Naval presence]) or down the nor'sea.

oh and does PR even have many Brick, Edwardian, Victorian, Georgian statics, terraced semi detached and detatched of those styles? oh i forgot chartdales little boxes, barrats and stamfords homes XD

i like the idea so dont think i'm picking it apart

ACF Saves the day XD

[quote="ghost-recon""]Stolen /Station Cars.[/quote]

Hot fuzz Astra chase FTW

Lange they could invade like the WIC concept of disguised cargo ships and use the Beirut concept

[Hitperson]

do westonbert arboritum (sp) all there is there are trees.

[Infantry1242]

The images you've shown don't seem like a good attack plan,they would go down the Thames and strike London with a backup force landing in Wales.And they wouldn't take ships,they would transport planes to Russia and fly them to the British mainland and parachute all over England/Wales/Scotland.

[Startrekern]

You would have to use a heavy rural area, since most of the statics from Armored Fury (which you could use as they're pretty western/modern) are in rural areas. I would recommend personally against using the Chinese -- the Russians would be a better invader, and it makes more sense politically. There are far more appealing targets for China to strike -- that are much closer to home, at that.

[Bellator]

There are so many other more real conflicts which are fascinating and could be better represented in PR than this implausible fantasy battle. China doesn't have such power projection capabilities: not through sea or land. Only if there was a complete power shifting world war, China might be able to pull it through. But that's not possible, because PR, at least in my opinion (not that I claim it matters much), should depict at least mildly plausible near future conflicts. If you want British vs Chinese battles, situate it in some part of South East Asia or Central Asia.

[Rhino]

Russians invading Britain is 1000x more likley than China doing so....

For a start China and the UK are pretty much on totally opposite sides of the globe, with no direct rout to there and only realistic way of getting there is via the sea and even then, by the time they had got there they would be doing amazingly well not to be detected and not to been stopped by one of NATOs Navies in the process. The Bismark had hardly left Germany before it had the entire Royal Navy on its *** with even carriers etc being brought up from the Mediterranean to help taking it down and that was way before decent maritime radar and spy satellites etc.

You can go though with this scenario if you really want but there are a lot more tempting targets for China to take far closer to home and they have a much more realistic chance of taking and also are packed with resources unlike the UK which only has like a little bit of coal left (which we have stopped mining since its not worth it) and some natrual gas in the North Sea etc. N America is even a more realistic target for China since at least there they have a direct open path from there country to it where they could attempt to get a supply chain but since there Navy is still not that powerful, with only one potential aircraft carrier coming into service any time soon which its design is seriously out of data (thou no more than the Nimitz) and only a few Assault Ships, they would be struggling to keep that supply chain up without being totally destroyed. They would on its own be totally overwhelmed by air power let alone anything else.

A Navy strike force can't sail though the huge chunks of ice in the north pole. They would have to take the rout south, and also have to go around Africa as going though the canals would be suicide.

[Igloo35]

lol

i always cringe when i see an idea thread and the last name posting is rhino. cause i know when i go in the room there's an Empty bucket and cold water everywhere.

it would be really cool though to have series of chinese maps . like a campaign of sorts

[Rudd]

it would be really cool though to have series of chinese maps . like a campaign of sorts

just need more people to have a go at mapping if its good enough, it gets in.

[Sgt.BountyOrig]

It could be more realistic to have Taliban vs. UK on UK soil
And to avoid the lack of 1st World Structures, do it on the GB Southern Coast.
Have caches positioned In toilet blocks, At the end of cliffs, In caves in the cliffs!

[Hauteclocque]

Puh, add the Frenchies rather than the Chinese, we have better reasons to invade them (and we succeeded in the past !), and no need of any Navy (even if we have a decent one), the EuroTunnel should be enough.

[Rhino]

Barrow has one of the only facilities in the world thats capable of building nuclear submarines. Hows that for a reason to be there?

China can build its own Nuclear subs and why would they travel 1/2 way round the world to get something they already have or they can make more of themselves? Again they could always invade America or somewhere closer (Russia?) if they wanted this which they have a far better chance of doing it since they would have better supply lines than they would to the UK, even if still really bad (thou if Russia would be pretty good ).

Puh, add the Frenchies rather than the Chinese, we have better reasons to invade them (and we succeeded in the past !), and no need of any Navy (even if we have a decent one), the EuroTunnel should be enough.

Lol, The Battle of Hastings 2 anyone? This time Prince Harry gets an AT missile in the eye?