Motorcycle Suspension

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Veterans-Gaming
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Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Veterans-Gaming »

Please fix the suspension on the Motorcycles. When riding within normal parameters the Bike explodes from damage. We can't do jumps or hit hard landings without taking major damage. If the Bike could be more like a true Dirt Bike, we would have more use for it.

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Alucard
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Alucard »

i don't think its possible to do it cause of the way the dirt bike is coded
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Haji with a Handgun
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Haji with a Handgun »

I would love the motorcycle to be totally re-coded, as of now its an unusable piece of ****.

As for suspension, would it really fix all that much? Its still a gigantic b**** to control, you still hits things, and you still die. I personally can't use them because every time I get a slight lag spike I die.
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Rudd
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Rudd »

I doubt the bike can be much improved past this current state, the only thing I imagine that can improve its performance is to decrease its speed, at least in the non boost state. This would alleviate many problems as impacts will happen at slower speeds with teh ground causes no or less damage, its easier to control and it doesnt tend to shake.

but proper bike physics are probably beyond BF2, oh Joint Operations another thing you got right :)
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by dtacs »

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote: but proper bike physics are probably beyond BF2,
The physics for the bike in Sandbox were excellent, there was no choppyness or rubber banding at all, nor did it take an unrealistic amount of damage. I can't find a video of it but they did it perfectly.
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dtacs wrote:The physics for the bike in Sandbox were excellent, there was no choppyness or rubber banding at all, nor did it take an unrealistic amount of damage. I can't find a video of it but they did it perfectly.
take it from someone that has hit a rut in a dirt bike going 30 miles an hour A. it depends on the bike B. when a dirt bike goes 30 miles an hour into a wall or a solid object you usually go flying forward into the object and your front spokes are F'd up so when it comes to hitting solid objects the damage is correct it normally wouldn't blow up but it wouldn't be drivable and you would most likely be very hurt or have a cracked skull and be dead if you don't wear a helmet anyways at how fast the dirt bike goes when it hits a rut the suspension is off it should bounce out of the rut depending on how you land into the rut however if your front tire goes into a rut you'll usually flip the dirt bike or something to that effect so all in all i think they amount of damage it takes is correct people need to learn how to control the dirt bike in game i can control it quite well it just takes practice and a lot of patients thats all i mean using bomb bikes i've prolly killed about 50 tanks so far and god knows how many warriors

EDIT: just so you know i've cracked my head open twice broke my arm broke three toes and 4 fingers on dirt bikes (im crazy lulz lets put it that way)
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Alucard wrote:take it from someone that has hit a rut in a dirt bike going 30 miles an hour A. it depends on the bike B. when a dirt bike goes 30 miles an hour into a wall or a solid object you usually go flying forward into the object and your front spokes are F'd up so when it comes to hitting solid objects the damage is correct it normally wouldn't blow up but it wouldn't be drivable and you would most likely be very hurt or have a cracked skull and be dead if you don't wear a helmet anyways at how fast the dirt bike goes when it hits a rut the suspension is off it should bounce out of the rut depending on how you land into the rut however if your front tire goes into a rut you'll usually flip the dirt bike or something to that effect so all in all i think they amount of damage it takes is correct people need to learn how to control the dirt bike in game i can control it quite well it just takes practice and a lot of patients thats all i mean using bomb bikes i've prolly killed about 50 tanks so far and god knows how many warriors
And breath? :p

The thing explodes from driving it reasonably normally (as much as it allows).

Its f*cked. Hilariously f*cked, and I kinda like it the way it is (I can't drive it at all :mrgreen :) but f*cked none the less. :p
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Alucard »

the problem with the dirt bike in PR is simple its to rigid its coded rigididly so it has not suspension or not sway when it comes to that but have you drove a dirt bike? the speed it goes ingame is not a normal speed you'd be going through rough terrain
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Post by A_Grounded_Pilot »

Alucard wrote:take it from someone that has hit a rut in a dirt bike going 30 miles an hour A. it depends on the bike B. when a dirt bike goes 30 miles an hour into a wall or a solid object you usually go flying forward into the object and your front spokes are F'd up so when it comes to hitting solid objects the damage is correct it normally wouldn't blow up but it wouldn't be drivable and you would most likely be very hurt or have a cracked skull and be dead if you don't wear a helmet anyways at how fast the dirt bike goes when it hits a rut the suspension is off it should bounce out of the rut depending on how you land into the rut however if your front tire goes into a rut you'll usually flip the dirt bike or something to that effect so all in all i think they amount of damage it takes is correct people need to learn how to control the dirt bike in game i can control it quite well it just takes practice and a lot of patients thats all i mean using bomb bikes i've prolly killed about 50 tanks so far and god knows how many warriors

EDIT: just so you know i've cracked my head open twice broke my arm broke three toes and 4 fingers on dirt bikes (im crazy lulz lets put it that way)

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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

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While some of that may be valid, could we please discuss this without calling the dirtbike a piece of ****? Someone put quite some efford into coding it this way, and back when the change was done, everyone loved it over the old dirt bike.

It is someone's work you're talking about, remember that please.
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Tarranauha200 »

Driving dirtbikes is art, just train to use them and you wont crash.
Redamare
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Redamare »

ugh dont even get me started on those bikes -_- ... what Could be done is improve the damage effects . . but the issue is that is . . it would be stupidly impossible to destroy . . . . . except the rider is exposed so maby its not so bad because they would die before the bike explodes
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by ankyle62 »

I love clipping something on a motorbike and then bleed to death slowly forever.

The handling is ok on them, they could use more damage or like the op said more suspension travel. Going over sand dunes shouldnt be so painful on the bike.
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

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Spec_Operator wrote:While some of that may be valid, could we please discuss this without calling the dirtbike a piece of ****? Someone put quite some efford into coding it this way, and back when the change was done, everyone loved it over the old dirt bike.

It is someone's work you're talking about, remember that please.
i wasn't calling it **** i was actually defending it i like the way it is it takes skill to use it it makes it harder for tali's to use bomb bikes because they crash and blow them up a lot so as far as im concerned leave the bike the way it is its a nice bike like i said before and like someone said above this it takes skill just get use to it it only toke me a couple days to get use to it
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

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Wasn't someone working on a new motorcycle? I think it was a Honda roadbike or something. I remember seeing it in the highlights section awhile ago. Maybe it has better physics?
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by goguapsy »

TBH the bike is fine (handling-wise... all you need is to control both the keys and the mouse).

But yes it has 0 suspension (sounds like it at least).

And for some odd reason, everytime I ride (not necessarily ride), the bike chops. When I break, it isn't fluid. When I accelerate sometimes it isn't as it should be. Makes any sense? Perhaps 250+ ping related?
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250? That's quite a ping, wouldn't surprised if that was the reason.

I'd agree with somehow making it harder to break the bike on accident. The handling is okay, though. Takes skill, which is fine, since it can actually be very dangerous in the right hands.
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

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My sugestion of the sugestion is that the 2 guy on motorcycle can fire

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Psyko
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by Psyko »

the dirt bikes go like 150mph, they dont really work and never have. shakey and difficult to control, ugly and they dont look like any bike i ever seen, and nobdy considers it imprtant enough to reprogram it. scrap it, anchient PR relic.
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Re: Motorcycle Suspension

Post by ComradeHX »

Psykogundam wrote:the dirt bikes go like 150mph, they dont really work and never have. shakey and difficult to control, ugly and they dont look like any bike i ever seen, and nobdy considers it imprtant enough to reprogram it. scrap it, anchient PR relic.
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