Helicopter: Auto Hover

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PoisonBill
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Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by PoisonBill »

I'm not sure if this has been suggested before, I searched for a while but couldn't find anything.

My idea which was taken from ArmA is that a button can reset the X, Z controls so you don't turn sideways, frontwards and so on, this can make landing and firing from helicopters much easier. Then if you push W or S you either go straight up or straight down.

It is a command which could be put on the Q or T menu.

This is something very simple, and could help us guys flying with a keyboard, but first i am wondering if its able with BF2's game engine :)
Tim270
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Tim270 »

Honestly this is something very easy to master with mouse and keyboard.
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hobbnob
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by hobbnob »

Agreed, a decent pilot would have no trouble doing this with the current build of PR, joystick or not
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PoisonBill
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by PoisonBill »

Tim270 wrote:Honestly this is something very easy to master with mouse and keyboard.
Yes, but not always. Sometimes you pick off from the ground and do a backwards loop since your controls have been slightly altered.

This is also just a small suggestion, if it is hard to implement in the mod its obviously not so important.
Hotrod525
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

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Tim270 wrote:Honestly this is something very easy to master with mouse and keyboard.
I fly chopper with my X52... before i was using the good old fashion : mouse + kbord :P so +1 for you ! :-P
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Zoddom
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Zoddom »

you shouldnt hover with the heli anyway.
i fly heli with mouse+keyboard ever since bf2 came out and i can say its the best way to be played. bf2 is not made for joysticks, and flying only with keyboard is too inaccurate.
protip: if you managed to get n a hovering position, hold mouse look or open squad screen....
Tim270
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Tim270 »

PoisonBill wrote:Yes, but not always. Sometimes you pick off from the ground and do a backwards loop since your controls have been slightly altered.

This is also just a small suggestion, if it is hard to implement in the mod its obviously not so important.

Not quite sure I follow you there...
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Elektro
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Elektro »

Get the chopper in possition and either hold down ctrl or press one of the chat buttons : Standart key L for Squad chat K for team chat & J for all chat. This allows the helicopter to stay in its current possition.

Also:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... los-3.html
Bringerof_D
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Bringerof_D »

excersize your fingers so they move quicker, honestly this is not necessary. if you think holding a chopper steady in PR is hard, you should have tried holding a chopper steady in BFV or desert combat.
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Arnoldio
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Arnoldio »

What is wrong with the suggestions lately... make spotting easier, make helicopters easier, make the gun lock onto targets automatically and shoot, why doesnt PR play instead of me.

Its supposed not to be easy ffs, go on the servers and train.
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Sex_Cactus
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Sex_Cactus »

Just practice. A perfect hover is possible with a mouse and keyboard, even if you're up in the clouds and can't see anything to judge your own movement. This is the kind of thing that sets PR apart from other games that do things for you. It's also unrealistic. I don't know if any military choppers (or civilians for that matter) have such a function, but I can't imagine they would.
PoisonBill
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

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Elektro wrote:Get the chopper in possition and either hold down ctrl or press one of the chat buttons : Standart key L for Squad chat K for team chat & J for all chat. This allows the helicopter to stay in its current possition.

Also:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... los-3.html
Good idea, I shall try that :) . Strange why it didn't show up when i searched for it :/
Sex_Cactus wrote:It's also unrealistic. I don't know if any military choppers (or civilians for that matter) have such a function, but I can't imagine they would.
Sadly you are wrong, I do not know about military helicopters that have auto hover, I have only seen that in ArmA.

The auto hover is featured in some helicopters auto pilot, some search and rescue helicopters (Sikorsky S-92) have auto hover can use it for standing still during long occasions. Other helicopters I don't know about since I can't find any facts about them.

But this is obviously not so important since no one here needs this. :)
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Punkbuster
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Punkbuster »

I have a Joystick, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro but I have never liked flying choppers with a joystick!
I use my mouse and keyboard for flying choppers and I have no problem at all, especially at hovering.
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Rissien
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Rissien »

Not a joystick fan with helis in PR, too much time adjusting. Work fine with mouse and keyboard, and everyone who plays in our server knows I can fly quite well. Takes only a matter of seconds to get into a hover from speed.
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Jorgee!
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

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'= wrote:H[=Rissien;1513241']Not a joystick fan with helis in PR, too much time adjusting. Work fine with mouse and keyboard, and everyone who plays in our server knows I can fly quite well. Takes only a matter of seconds to get into a hover from speed.
Never seen you on H, are you new?

Mouse is just perfect for hovering, takes 5 seconds to stabilize....
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Acemantura
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Acemantura »

I fly keyboard only. I hover just fine. I still want this to be implemented.

Reasons:
this is a game.
This is not real life.
I like going up, straight up when getting altitude.
I like to be able to step away from my computer for 5 seconds without having to worry if I got the hover right.
I like to be able to look at my map to coordinate with my coordinating squad leader and to get a better idea of the target area.
I would like for squad leaders to be efficient at both squad leading and flying.
I love it when a newb pilot can give me a steady shot as a gunner.
This will allow newb players more room for error when flying, instead of wasting an asset.
We can see more stable landings, especially with the Kiowa and its problematic skids.

Now all of these might be good, but I don't think we can put one of my friends auto-hover joysticks into every players hands.

But I tried dammit.
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Rissien
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Re: Helicopter: Auto Hover

Post by Rissien »

FusionGames wrote:Never seen you on H, are you new?

Mouse is just perfect for hovering, takes 5 seconds to stabilize....
Im one of the longest standing members in the clan aside from Coeman himself. Just havnt been playing much lately from the new games lately and dealing with moving.
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