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[Texture] Ural 4230 logistic tint [WIP]
Posted: 2011-01-14 12:23
by samogon100500
Hi just little stuff,what I make around 2 hours.How URAL got NATO logi truck tint.
This is right stuff.
And LODs:
LOD0 - 600tris
LOD1 - 320tris
LOD2- 94tris
LOD3 - 28tris
UV maps already done.

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 12:59
by Rhino
cool, something we might be able to use but the final lod only needs to be 10tris, doesn't need the opening in the back and LOD2 doesn't need the rolled up back bit either. Speaking of the rolled up back bit, it looks rather artificial and odd to me, give it some straps and slagging points etc.
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 13:42
by samogon100500
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:cool, something we might be able to use but the final lod only needs to be 10tris, doesn't need the opening in the back and LOD2 doesn't need the rolled up back bit either. Speaking of the rolled up back bit, it looks rather artificial and odd to me, give it some straps and slagging points etc.
OK am make LOD changes.But i don't agree about your opinion about rolled back.Civilian and army trucks have 99% same details.
Sorry but I don't find any better quality photo.

I see thats truck in real life,on model straps gonna be not visible,trust me.
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 14:00
by Rhino
I don't think you understand what I mean.
The bit rolled up at the back at the moment is just a perfect cylinder, which doesn't look at all realistic when really a rolled up canvas like this will first of all be slagging where the straps are not holding up and will also have other bits of variation too it.
Take a look at how the MAN truck has its rolled up canvas at the back and compare it to yours and you should see what I mean. Also note how the MAN truck has its rolled bit on the underside of the opening, not on the outside like yours.

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 14:04
by J.F.Leusch69
the only picture i found:

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 14:36
by samogon100500
'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1530621']I don't think you understand what I mean.
The bit rolled up at the back at the moment is just a perfect cylinder, which doesn't look at all realistic when really a rolled up canvas like this will first of all be slagging where the straps are not holding up and will also have other bits of variation too it.
Take a look at how the MAN truck has its rolled up canvas at the back and compare it to yours and you should see what I mean. Also note how the MAN truck has its rolled bit on the underside of the opening, not on the outside like yours.

Ou ok am make that.May be am incorrectly understand you...
Better?

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 16:07
by J.F.Leusch69
higher resolution and more angles would be good
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 16:22
by Rhino
the drooping bits for a start is over the top, needs to be much more subtle. Also you should have a strap in the middle as well as on the sides so the middle bit should be up as well, and the drooping bits bits should then be on either side.
This is kinda hard to explain but you should also mess up the rolled up bit as well since its still a circle, add a little noise to that bit of the model but only a little bit
Also I still think it would look better if the rolled up bit wasn't fully on the outside like you have, or at least merge it in a little so it looks part of the rest of the cover as at the moment it looks totally separate.
Also read this:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-p ... ssets.html
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 17:03
by WilsonPL
Looks nice
Maybe you could model ZIL 130 truck for militia

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 17:11
by Rhino
WilsonPL wrote:Looks nice
Maybe you could model ZIL 130 truck for militia
The truck is the one from in the mod already, all samogon has made here is a new canvas for it

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 17:36
by samogon100500
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:The truck is the one from in the mod already, all samogon has made here is a new canvas for it
Oh My God.Oh My God.Oh My God.
I see this beast every day,they almost in rust(engine too) but still moving.
Ok lets deal.Leusch what mean on angels?
and... color test,do you like it or make it more dark?

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-14 21:24
by J.F.Leusch69
please, let us first get the model proper done, before going into any texturing.
i didnt mean angels

, i meant angles.
one thing i notice from the last render is that the canvas are currently paper thin, which looks unrealistic and odd. make them like 2 cm thick, you can check out the current canvas on the M35 for that. of course this only applies to the parts wher you notice the it (back part).
also you havent worked on the points rhino made yet, so no need to get into texturing yet

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 11:01
by samogon100500
[R-DEV]J.F.Leusch69 wrote:please, let us first get the model proper done, before going into any texturing.
i didnt mean angels

, i meant angles.
one thing i notice from the last render is that the canvas are currently paper thin, which looks unrealistic and odd. make them like 2 cm thick, you can check out the current canvas on the M35 for that. of course this only applies to the parts wher you notice the it (back part).
also you havent worked on the points rhino made yet, so no need to get into texturing yet
1)I like to see some basic textures,when I make models.
2)I mean angles,it's keyboard fail

3)No problem am make that
4)Of course but slagging points marked red,green - rope,what attachment on down side of door,when they rolled - they somewhere in center of the roll.All,what photos,where roll attaching on the center - makes custom by knife

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 11:35
by Doc.Pock
make it something like this one where the yellow is how it should be
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 11:59
by samogon100500
Doc.Pock wrote:make it something like this one where the yellow is how it should be
There is no slagging points.Watch on this.

I can do that but why?Red - slagging points,Green - rope.
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 12:39
by J.F.Leusch69
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 14:23
by Rhino
ye how its done in ARMA2 is a good example.
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 15:30
by samogon100500
ок aм do that if wish.but i think my version could be better.
P.S - It's looks like just ArmA no?
P.P.S - After that what BIS make with Russian army in ArmaA2 I belive them,that really unrealistic.

Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 16:03
by Rhino
defiantly better but note this pic here:
http://ualb.de/games/arma-armed-assault ... hinten.jpg
It has two straps, not on the ends but at 1/4 the way in from each side, and its tight around the straps and not around any other bits. It doesn't have any slagging bits on the ARMA2 one but I would add a very, very slight droop, but nothing like to the extend your doing. Also I would squish up your rolled canvas on the x axis a little.
Re: [Stuff]Ural 4230 logistic tint[W.I.P]
Posted: 2011-01-15 16:36
by samogon100500
Sorry am watch on doc.pock's post... =)
So what you think about that?
