The art of IED by JohnnyTheIED

AquaticPenguin
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JKRMAUI wrote:I personally like using mines as a "oh doh" sort of thing. Placing them in plain sight as to encourage my targets to go places where I want them.
I use this tactic all the time. Place an IED next to a lamp post or something, and then put a mine quite near to the opposite side of the road - They see the mine, swerve and boom! And you get the added "WTF!?!" for extra lulz
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AquaticPenguin wrote:I use this tactic all the time. Place an IED next to a lamp post or something, and then put a mine quite near to the opposite side of the road - They see the mine, swerve and boom! And you get the added "WTF!?!" for extra lulz
I love that tactic when it works. It's a glorious moment for me. :razz:
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That and creating major IED kill boxes. For instance, fighting against a very good team. They are all working very well together. Full APC support. I had a squad of 4 guys. Each of us spawned at a cache that was soon to be revealed. We set up a large sum of IEDs and mines. Lets just say we had everything wired around the cache.

The enemy team rolls in with their last brad and a lav. At least two squads worth of INF. One squad walks into a building that I've wired, and the other squad into the one my squadie wired. Plus a number of IEDs on the street. Boooooom. The whole side of the compound goes up. Everything dies. Brad lav...everything.
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Post by [10th] Totalverweigerung »

On a second note, Last nite I got myself a full APC on Fallujah highway U-turn (in front of red cross) with a 6 x IED blast Was on top of the arch waiting, quite a blast
today i had such a blast, too. dropped lots of mines to "track" them, then 6 or 7 IED´s (just right-click at the cage while holding the phone to get more IED´s then just one) and took out 4 guys, one hummve and an APC returning to the base for repairs (too bad i missed it...)

anyway... don´t let them bring you down, here are some very usefull hints!

greetz
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Post by amazing_retard »

There is a big difference between an insurgent, and a terrorist. Western propaganda uses both words interchangeably. Don't listen to fags who always switch to the US side, f*ck them keep IEDing and making guides. I play with you alot
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Post by fry_fubar »

Heres a good IED tactic that i use a lot on Al Basarah; use the British transport vehicles as car bombs. The infantry will usually move in their jeeps, dismounting when they closer to the town. For example, just west of the two small bridges just west of the main bridge is where they tend to leave their vehicles, which is perfect for this setup.

Get as close as possible, wait for them to park up (if they haven't already done so). Once they leave the trucks behind, mine/IED the vehicles and wait... Pretty soon, if your team is doing well, they'll fall back or spawn at a nearby rally point and grab the jeeps... Enjoy.

I pulled this off three times in various locations around the Al Basarah map tonight, but the other team wised up pretty quick. Try using this in conjunction with a dedicated IED squad so you can co-ordinate mine placement. Having regular insurgents with you in that squad is also very useful for spotting, but more importantly, for security.

Using destroyed vehicles as IED cover, works well against infantry. I was stunned at the amount of infantry that use wrecked vehicles as cover! Use grenade traps creatively around those downed vehicles, you might be supprised as to the frequency of detonations.
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Post by J.Burton[EEF] »

fry_fubar wrote:Heres a good IED tactic that i use a lot on Al Basarah; use the British transport vehicles as car bombs. The infantry will usually move in their jeeps, dismounting when they closer to the town. For example, just west of the two small bridges just west of the main bridge is where they tend to leave their vehicles, which is perfect for this setup.

Get as close as possible, wait for them to park up (if they haven't already done so). Once they leave the trucks behind, mine/IED the vehicles and wait... Pretty soon, if your team is doing well, they'll fall back or spawn at a nearby rally point and grab the jeeps... Enjoy.

I pulled this off three times in various locations around the Al Basarah map tonight, but the other team wised up pretty quick. Try using this in conjunction with a dedicated IED squad so you can co-ordinate mine placement. Having regular insurgents with you in that squad is also very useful for spotting, but more importantly, for security.

Using destroyed vehicles as IED cover, works well against infantry. I was stunned at the amount of infantry that use wrecked vehicles as cover! Use grenade traps creatively around those downed vehicles, you might be supprised as to the frequency of detonations.
That is genius. **Scribbles down on post-it** I've seen people mine stationary APCs and ARVt's - but I've never considered just placing an IED on the vehicle and waiting for them to return.. Of course this would mean me staying alive for a while, which never happens when I'm an insurgent..
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'J.Burton[EEF wrote:;1043729']That is genius. **Scribbles down on post-it** I've seen people mine stationary APCs and ARVt's - but I've never considered just placing an IED on the vehicle and waiting for them to return.. Of course this would mean me staying alive for a while, which never happens when I'm an insurgent..

Just be patient mate. You will get that kill if you just stay down, stealth is key to being a sucessful PR Insurgent.
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'J.Burton[EEF wrote:;1043729'] but I've never considered just placing an IED on the vehicle and waiting for them to return..
You forgot about the 'IF your team is doing well'. Usually everyone gets wtfpwned and the coalition can go safely back and grab their rides unharmed.
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Nice guide
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Good job :D
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Post by iAtR »

Good work on the guide!
P.S. IEDing an entire intersection = win if somebody does go over it :D
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Post by jag566 »

good job :razz: really useful tips
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Post by mockingbird0901 »

Being a nub at PR, I don't really know this for sure, but I tend to know how people react in most situations, and enjoy playing with their heads...
So my tip would be to find a street that inf often go through, with a building that you can enter.
Then place an IED, grenade-trap, anything that makes a boom, in that building.
Then hide a short distance away, and wait. When the enemy draws closer, let them come. When they are just by the building, open fire.
I think most people would now search for cover, finding that building, instead of just laying out in the open like in vBF2.
As they enter to plan a counter-attack, boom, they're dead :D
Might need somebody else close by tho, to finish of possible survivors, and people not running into your trap, plus explosives near any other relevant building that they could enter :)
And then wohoo, no more crappy weapons for you ;)
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Post by LittleFoX »

Nice guide!
I remember my very first IED attack, in Al basrah on the road from the NVCP to the town, i placed an IED near a streetlight, only had to wait about 30 sec. befor the first APC showed up. It was destroyed instantly > :D
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Disclaimer: Some people will find placing IEDs on high grounds to be somewhat exploiting, I answer that Explosives are even more efficient when used at some height since the blast radius will rebound on the ground and also hit top armor that is always weaker. Thus making this realistic and actually used in Iraq. (they often use electric wires or poles to hang EFPs and other IEDs high, in order to hit weaker top armor) The fact one could throw an ied a few feet away doesn't seem unreal or exploiting to me in any ways. Give me duct tape, shovels, EFPs and we'll talk again about that
Man, do i agree on you with that.
Improvised Explosive Device -> IED
Smacking one on a telephone pole is improvisation as well :P
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Post by 009783232 »

I find that on operation archer, combat engineers can be effective when detonating ieds from hundreds of metres away. To aid with knowing where the ied is, put an attack marker on it, or if your squad leader needs it for something else, put it next to something easily identifiable such as a building or destroyed vehicle static object. Having other spotters to keep an eye on one of your ieds and telling you when to explode them can also prevent the enemy from having any chance from killing you before detonation. Just remember bf2 voip has around a 1.5 second delay.

This means for example, in the city on operation archer you can cover all three major road entrances to the central city with ieds. Admittedly though, you will have to blow all three sets of ieds simultaneously.

If there is a particularly confident apc crew around (eg fallujah), laying on your own mine and encouraging them to run you over can work.

On most maps though, mines are ineffective as most competent apc crews can spot them before they become an issue, or even outside of the draw distance of the rocks you place them under. Placing a highly visible mine near your remote ied will prevent vehicles from driving by both.

Therefore, it is often more effective to use a large number of ieds reloaded from a cache (just watch the friendlies, this is not a tactic for Basrah).

Edit: I think I need to say this as a lot of people seem to forget it, keep the ieds out of blast radius from the cache.
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Post by mosinmatt »

nice guide johnny.
One thing I like to do is bait them around corners and what not. Since they have an advantage in long range, I try to keep them close, so i stick inside buildings, or around corners.
I basically lure them close, toss an IED down and wait for them. This usually ends in a suicide for me as well.
They definitely are not expecting the guy to totally blow himself up.
With mines, i try to put them in less obvious places. Since i rarely see vehicals drive straight on the roads, I will put them behind rocks, in small bushes on the sides of the road, etc.
If you have the time. Totally mine one side of the road (say the right) then go to the left, and put a mine or two just off the road. A speeding humvee will likely avoid the mines on the right, but hit the hidden ones on the left.

Other than that. Just put IEDs where you think they will come from and wait. But with my luck they always come through there when I have to run somewhere else, and I miss them =(
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Post by Ca6e »

I have one question about IED. As it says in PR manual:
"The Sapper uses the SKS rifle with fixed bayonet. He also has some F1 hand grenades that he can throw or turn into traps. Additionally the kit contains two improvised explosive devices (IEDs). One is remotely
detonated and the other has a proximity trigger"
I like to know with which button u change from Remotly detonate or proximity trigger?
thanks in advance
Solute
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Post by Moonlight »

Ca6e wrote:I have one question about IED. As it says in PR manual:
"The Sapper uses the SKS rifle with fixed bayonet. He also has some F1 hand grenades that he can throw or turn into traps. Additionally the kit contains two improvised explosive devices (IEDs). One is remotely
detonated and the other has a proximity trigger"

I like to know with which button u change from Remotly detonate or proximity trigger?
thanks in advance
Solute
That what we all call simply a mine is labelled as a proximity triggered IED. That's the whole mystery ;D
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