Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

blaat123
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

Post by blaat123 »

Mouse and keyboard are the best for flying choppers , moste accurate.
heres some proof from a round two days ago on qwai in the attack lb :P
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Post by CHUGGA-CHUGGA »

oo that sounds good, yeh i love the throttle stick too! -- the mouse is great for those percise movements, but... its hard for doing continuous pitching... like turning in a cirlce while flying forward, it makes me 'stroke the mouse pad' with the mouse.
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

Post by CHUGGA-CHUGGA »

blaat123 wrote:Mouse and keyboard are the best for flying choppers , moste accurate.
heres some proof from a round two days ago on qwai in the attack lb :P
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Wow.. that scores so good it looks photoshoped :D im sure its not- too bad their taking the choppers out of qwai
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GSUS! Thats nice :P Also probably good decision making on your side right? Like, aa or .50 there so better not go there but go here?
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Nothin' beats a good keyboard. I've borrowed joysticks from friends and tried to fly with my mouse, still nothing more responsive than my g15 gen1 keyboard. So much more precise than the other options, my only complaint is the lack of throttle, but even still, the way PR aircraft work, 100% all the time works just fine unless you're landing.
CHUGGA-CHUGGA wrote:too bad their taking the choppers out of qwai
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mat552 wrote:Nothin' beats a good keyboard. I've borrowed joysticks from friends and tried to fly with my mouse, still nothing more responsive than my g15 gen1 keyboard. So much more precise than the other options, my only complaint is the lack of throttle, but even still, the way PR aircraft work, 100% all the time works just fine unless you're landing.


"Progress" and "Balance" ;)
You said the keyboard was more accurate? Ive tried many times with keyboard or mouse but it sucks. It may be more responsive but it its a hell of a lot less accurate. Maybe its your joystick? Also in a realism based game you are using a keyboard, that kinda a cheater way to do it. Maybe you learned with a keyboard so thats what your used to, but for me I fly simulators in Aviation Class so joystick is all I use. Plus panning the mouse around gets really annoying.
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

Post by HELPME7 »

smee wrote:planes joystick
helo mouse.

with the helo , my thrustmaster seems to get confused when I used twist rudder and turn Roll.
I agree...
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Post by CHUGGA-CHUGGA »

Thanks guys,

Yeh i only use the joystick because i fly ALOT of FSX and aviation sims, BUT in vanilla bf2 i CANNOT fly a helo with a joystick, its so... needy of mouse -- but because of PR's physics joystick is the way to go for me.
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

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I use a mouse with extremely high-sensitivity. Flying with a joystick requires too much input.
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Yeah but its way less realistic and kinda a cheap way of controling a helicopter. I mean, people fly with mouse on Grand Theft Auto, you would think in a realism based game like PR people would fly with a joystick...
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That's some messed up reasoning there.

None of the physical devices you use to control anything in a game are realistic. And because people use a mouse in another game to control a helicopter then it must therefore be cheap in any other game?

Is PR going to buy my a joystick so I can use the input device that isn't cheap?
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I don´t know how a mouse is cheap. If anything it has less advantages than a joystick.
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I prefer flying with a joystick personally, with both helo's and jets. Yes, it's true that you can get more accurate fire with mice (pin pointing your cursor directly onto the enemy), but that's not to say you aren't accurate with a joystick. Plus, using the joystick allows for constant input at whichever level between 0 and 100 % you want.

Hovering becomes much easier, and I find my best evasive and offensive maneuvers in Air to Air combat with helicopters has been with the joystick. It's a much smoother experience as well :p

But I don't see how using a mouse could be considered "cheap". It's all about personal preference, and they both have advantages and disadvantages. But even though I was an avid mouse user in the 0.75 days, since I've been with a joystick I can't really go back. It's not quite like learning how to bicycle, though practice makes perfect, because you really seem to get used to one type of input method.
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McLuv wrote:I prefer flying with a joystick personally, with both helo's and jets. Yes, it's true that you can get more accurate fire with mice (pin pointing your cursor directly onto the enemy), but that's not to say you aren't accurate with a joystick. Plus, using the joystick allows for constant input at whichever level between 0 and 100 % you want.

Hovering becomes much easier, and I find my best evasive and offensive maneuvers in Air to Air combat with helicopters has been with the joystick. It's a much smoother experience as well :p

But I don't see how using a mouse could be considered "cheap". It's all about personal preference, and they both have advantages and disadvantages. But even though I was an avid mouse user in the 0.75 days, since I've been with a joystick I can't really go back. It's not quite like learning how to bicycle, though practice makes perfect, because you really seem to get used to one type of input method.
I agree with most of what you just said. The only reason I call it cheap is because it is a realism-based game. In real life helos arent controled with a mouse. This is a pretty obvious point.

(Ive used my joystick since .6)
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Post by Rissien »

Theres alot of things in pr that still dont match to realism, like we dont use keybards to drive or run, or mouses to shot for that matter. Some things are just easier for ppl. Jets I fly with joystick everytime but I feel I have more control over my helis with a mouse. In the end it is still what results you get that matters.
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'= wrote:H[=ElvishKnight;1053205']Theres alot of things in pr that still dont match to realism, like we dont use keybards to drive or run, or mouses to shot for that matter. Some things are just easier for ppl. Jets I fly with joystick everytime but I feel I have more control over my helis with a mouse. In the end it is still what results you get that matters.
Good point Elvish...
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Yeh, why not go one step further- buy a Huey shell from a junk store, put it in ur garage, put ur monitor in it and hook up the joystick!
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

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ive always flown everything with a mouse, a mate of mine has a joystick so ive used it a couple of time but it just feels awkward because im so used to the mouse.
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

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driver-ch-driver wrote:ive always flown everything with a mouse, a mate of mine has a joystick so ive used it a couple of time but it just feels awkward because im so used to the mouse.
Yeah I suppose if you earned that way joystick would feel weird. I learned with a joystick on flight-sims, to me the mouse/keyboard feels so very un-natural
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Re: Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

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LUKE_NUKE_EM wrote:Yeah I suppose if you earned that way joystick would feel weird. I learned with a joystick on flight-sims, to me the mouse/keyboard feels so very un-natural
Same! yeh mouse & keyboard feels really wrong.
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