Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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JDMT
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Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

Post by JDMT »

I decided to test this on Combined Arms(Please don't argue about this, it's the SAME BMP-3 in PR, so you'd get the same results). The BMP-3 floats IRL, Floats in PR, but it does many other things in the water(Watch the video).

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So, do you really want a BMP-3 on Muttrah?
KingLorre
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

Post by KingLorre »

Emnyron wrote:It wont be on muttra becuse of the NWACHNT issue. (Non-Western Armies Cant Have Nice Things)
Dont you try to start a flame war now, because what your saying is Redicules

and i tought our BMP3 was from special forces? and i tought it did float in that, so it can hopefully be fixed.
JDMT
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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KingLorre wrote:Dont you try to start a flame war now, because what your saying is Redicules

and i tought our BMP3 was from special forces? and i tought it did float in that, so it can hopefully be fixed.
Yes it is from BF2 Special Forces, another thing that needs to be fixed is the Interior, it looks weird with doors on both sides of it.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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Emnyron wrote:It wont be on muttra becuse of the NWACHNT issue. (Non-Western Armies Cant Have Nice Things)
go make a map, give the MEC/PLA nice things and if the map is good enough it'll get in to PR.









cuz generally afaik teh mapper gets to choose what goes on the map.

Very silly comment anyway.

If you put the work in to fixing teh BMP for water, then it'll get on a water map.

Jeez.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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Dr2B Rudd wrote:go make a map, give the MEC/PLA nice things and if the map is good enough it'll get in to PR.









cuz generally afaik teh mapper gets to choose what goes on the map.

Very silly comment anyway.

If you put the work in to fixing teh BMP for water, then it'll get on a water map.

Jeez.
Why is this a silly comment, in fact it isn't. Of course the mapper is deciding what gets on the map and what not and the DEV-Team is deciding what gets into the mod, and if the decision is that US/UK will get the good stuff and the others not there is a NWACHNT-Issue. (nice abbreviation btw :) ) It was and it is that the US/UK armies are getting all nice toys and the rest are left behind. E.g. no fast transport choppers for MEC/PLA, no scopes on the LMGs for MEC/PLA, crappy APC (gun overheats in two seconds and no protection for the gunner) for PLA on .86, none guideable HAT for PLA, no up-armoured transport vehicles with MG, like the Hummvee, for MEC/PLA etc... and don't tell me that those factions aren't capable of having such stuff IRL, thats simply not true. And don't say something like: "Go and make one", because that would make every critical comment on the mod obsolete.

But it is a game, I have fun with it, no matter which side I am on, even it is somehow western-hemisphere friendly :) , but none the less, from my POV UK/US are the favourites of the DEVs and thats their right, but so one should have the right to point it out.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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The Western factions equipment is superior in real life and as such should be in the game also.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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Cpt.Kawakowitsch wrote:Why is this a silly comment, in fact it isn't. Of course the mapper is deciding what gets on the map and what not and the DEV-Team is deciding what gets into the mod, and if the decision is that US/UK will get the good stuff and the others not there is a NWACHNT-Issue. (nice abbreviation btw :) ) It was and it is that the US/UK armies are getting all nice toys and the rest are left behind. E.g. no fast transport choppers for MEC/PLA, no scopes on the LMGs for MEC/PLA, crappy APC (gun overheats in two seconds and no protection for the gunner) for PLA on .86, none guideable HAT for PLA, no up-armoured transport vehicles with MG, like the Hummvee, for MEC/PLA etc... and don't tell me that those factions aren't capable of having such stuff IRL, thats simply not true. And don't say something like: "Go and make one", because that would make every critical comment on the mod obsolete.
"no scopes on LMG's for MEC/PLA" - they get a 4x zoom which IMO is better (though only a place holder) because of the bigger field of view.

"crappy APC" - maps like qwai the PLA have a APC with a cannon and US have one with a 50.cal, so incorrect.

"none guideable HAT for PLA" - quicker set up time that other HATs

"no up-armored transport vehicles with MG like hummvee" - ummmm, what about the "****" APC you just mentioned ? more armor than hummvee and more protection to gunner.

come on kawa, you should know better than this ! also (arguably) the PLA have the best rifle in the game ! much better than m4/m16 so come on guys....

JDMT wrote:So, do you really want a BMP-3 on Muttrah?
god i hope this is a joke, it was amazingly obvious that all that shizz going on in the video was a bug..
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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crAck_sh0t wrote:The Western factions equipment is superior in real life and as such should be in the game also.
I guess, you are one of those who teamswitches because you can't be a US Marine.

God, I hate patriotic fools.

Edit: User was warned for "attitude problem". These kinds of free attacks will not be accepted on these forums.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

Post by OkitaMakoto »

WHINING/DEBATING ABOUT ASSETS IN THIS THREAD STOPS NOW

Thank you
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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Shouldn't there be a lock, then? :p

BTW, does my sig break any forum laws?
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

Post by OkitaMakoto »

You can still discuss the BMP floating... if you wish... or why i did it, or whatever. Just dont whine or debate assets and how PR is ruining all your lives ;)

And no, doesnt break any rules that I see
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

Post by Cheditor »

JDMT what was the point of this thread may i ask? It looks like your reporting a bug but that belongs in the Bug section of the forums and if you were asking if it was bugged then you were already told in your other BMP-3 thread that it was bugged.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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[R-COM]Cheditor wrote:JDMT what was the point of this thread may i ask? It looks like your reporting a bug but that belongs in the Bug section of the forums and if you were asking if it was bugged then you were already told in your other BMP-3 thread that it was bugged.
I was just showing it off...Good point, useless thread lock it please!
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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But this is combined arms, isnt it? Or did I overlook that?

(Forget what I just said (smacks self in forehead after reading OP :d uh: )

Easily fixable bug.
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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crAck_sh0t wrote:The Western factions equipment is superior in real life and as such should be in the game also.
That is a lie and you know it. the only reason it seems that way is because the US are one of the few countries that are constantly showing off their stuff. which is why everyone knows of their equipment. it's like TV shows and movies, everyone thinks the mainstream shows are better but that's cause they get more funding for advertising. but we all know that those large well funded projects are all **** these days they still look amazing in all the add campaigns. If you were to do some actual research on say China or Israel's military equipment you will find that they have the world's best equipment, china is questionable but ISrael definetly has equipment that far out performs any western counterpart.

on another note, the non western factions get all the nice stuff because that's where the devs and modelers are interested in. they're not obligated to make anything. if they feel more interested in making a new US tank than a chinese tank then so be it. the NWACHNT effect only really applies to actual games on the market. mods tend to be more evenly balanced
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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The floating issue can be fixed. /END THREAD
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Re: Why PR Will NEVER have a BMP on a Map with Water

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Closed at the request of the OP

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