Dying on A Ladder - Left in Limbo

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JuniperM40
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Dying on A Ladder - Left in Limbo

Post by JuniperM40 »

Greets Gents,

Strange one here. Got shot just before entering a ladder, bled out WHILE on the ladder. Fell to the bottom of said ladder. Squad screen show's I'm clearly dead (no kit). Could not look around.

Text of "Waiting for Medic" did also not appear; however could still yell "Medic" via LMB.

Haven't been able to repeat it so far in gameplay, but i'll keep tryin'

Squad Screen:
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Front View:
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Required disconnection from server to re-enter the game.

Cheers.

- JM40.
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bondsan
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Post by bondsan »

how long did you wait ? i've had no give up box like in the first pic so i just waited the 2 mins unil i blead to death
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Post by waldo_ii »

Why isn't there a black screen? Shouldn't it always go to a pure black screen when you die?
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Post by crazy11 »

waldo_ii wrote:Why isn't there a black screen? Shouldn't it always go to a pure black screen when you die?
Thats the bug :roll:
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Post by bloodthirsty_viking »

idk if its atall related, but on a diffrent mod i play, roflbox, you can get stuck on the ground deadlike....
its bassickly sandbox, so i loaded an object nothin, i did the jump command... nothen, i did the teleport command.. nothing
the only fix they had was an admin could "jail" you (loats of smacks on sandbox)

so could it be there is a glitch in vbf2, that allowes that to happen?
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JuniperM40
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Post by JuniperM40 »

Yes, it is possible that this is a vBF2 bug manifesting itself inside PR.

As stated, it appears i'm neither "alive" nor "wounded/dead". From my limited knowledge, it appears that the server and/or the client lost an event between them, and hence are in an "out-of-sync" state between them. (i.e. the client thinks one thing, the server thinks another).

Perhaps a code-check (if even possible?) to check for this corner-case. Or, alternatively, allow a user-initiated complete re-sync between client-state and server-state (perhaps via console command).

Cheers.

- JM40.

P.S. I waited a good 2-3 minutes before discon/recon - and did not bleed health. (Can't bleed what you don't have, eh?) =)
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Post by Outlawz7 »

Uh oh, I "used" that bug to create civi zombies in 0.6 but I thought it was an issue with the civi code.
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Post by Rudd »

I've seen it on Jabal as USMC once

its pretty annoying, but very very rare
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Post by wookimonsta »

had this as well, waited for 3 minutes and then i automatically respawned on the point i had selected beforehand
M4nicMin3r
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Post by M4nicMin3r »

Had this bug a lot of times in w/Fallujah. Getting shot on a ladder falling to the bottom and the same as the others. No give up option, no shout for medic, shows me as dead but unable to respawn.

I managed to get out by calling for a medic to rez me out over voip. If theres no medics nearby then only option to right the bug is to reconnect to server.

Quite annoying.
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Post by MrScruff »

One time on Muttrah City back in 0.85 I was lasing for the Cobra. I was spotted by an enemy APC. I started running away but obvious I got shot in the back with a few 50 calibre bullets.

It said I was wounded, though I had no blood on the screen edges, couldn't call a medic, couldn't respawn nor select a respawn location, but the weirdest thing was I could move my head slightly as if my head were popped up from the ground and Im spying on people. :p
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Post by cfschris »

Ah, the limbo bug :p

Yeah, I encountered this once not too long ago as well.....happen JUST as I was beginning to climb a ladder. Meaning, I died just as I took hold of the ladder. I think its that critical half a second transition time from being on the ground and then on the ladder, and if you get killed in that half second, the bug gets you.
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Post by >para< »

its happen to me too have to wait 2-5 minutes to spawn again :|
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Post by Outlawz7 »

[R-CON]JuniperM40 wrote:Greets Gents,

Strange one here. Got shot just before entering a ladder, bled out WHILE on the ladder. Fell to the bottom of said ladder. Squad screen show's I'm clearly dead (no kit). Could not look around.

Text of "Waiting for Medic" did also not appear; however could still yell "Medic" via LMB.
Sounds similar to the civi zombie bug from 0.6

How to create a Zombie in project Reality
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StrkTm_Leopold
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Post by StrkTm_Leopold »

A very rigged way of fixing this problem is to have a squad mate throw molotovs on you if your Insurgents.
Hockachu
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Post by Hockachu »

I had this happen in the fort on 7 gates and someone actually revived me and I popped back out of the ground/limbo. Very unsettling.
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Post by Raic »

Right, from what I can see for some reason you don't get killed on the ladders but wounded and the give up button doesn't appear. Same thing happens if you die out of bounds, but when you're there you still take damage witch kills you in the end. As the wounded time has been risen to 5 mins since new patch you have quite a while to wait until respawn.
- increased wounded time to 5 min.
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Post by Spec »

I guess you can't select a spawn point? Better don't have your rally point selected while climbing then, in case it gets overrun or a new one placed - might explain why some could spawn and others couldn't.
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Post by Raic »

Spec_Operator wrote:I guess you can't select a spawn point? Better don't have your rally point selected while climbing then, in case it gets overrun or a new one placed - might explain why some could spawn and others couldn't.
You can select spawn point anytime I thinksssssssssssssss
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