Replace Firebase

[Redamare]

So i was just thinking about he firebase and its functions. its only Real purpose is a satellite spawn point for the team. game play has shown that Not very many players use the base for actual fire cover. plus isnt fire cover the point of Fox holes? so i was thinking ... why not replace the Firebase with something a little less inconspicuious. such as a larger foxhole digout that can only be acessed by crawling under a camo cover


+ Radio and supplies or something

[SkaterCrush]

Whatever happened to that bunker firebase that someone modeled?

[goguapsy]

Hmm... that's interesting, but there are some rare occasions people do defend FOBs...
Anyways, your idea is pretty cool, and the pics too (maybe the building animations could be the 4 stages rather than just the current built-or-not-build animations for the FOB), I just wonder if it won't look like Hideouts (which are the entrance to a tunnel system?).
My opinion is: First make hideouts more... how do I say... discreete (typo)? (if you know what I mean). Than make FOB's cooler. Though I don't dislike the current FOBs. cheers!

[HangMan_]

You have a point but it depends on how ur team play. I have had really good games with FB's when the team puts down all the deployable assets allowed for a FB then when everything goes tits up we fall back to it and dig in. This has saved me on fools road numerous times lol.

I do think that the mortar (which can be seen in the PR highlights) should be added as a deployable asset to the FB. with a max of 4 per FB. Then we would get real firesupport/fire cover missions

HangMan

[JKJudgeX]

I like this idea, I just came from an AAS match where the enemy team happily camped both of the firebases that were deployed for the entire game, making us either walk all the way from the distant Chinese base (which needs more transport vehicles, btw, if the map is going to be that large)... it was a good effort on their part, but, a firebase really should have some more cover around it. In some cases we were dead before we could take 3 steps.

I guess the counter-argument would be that other structures can be built, but, in reality, this will almost never be done in-game, because AAS can be concluded so quickly that over-defending a firebase could directly result in game loss.

Good suggestion, I hope they listen.

[gazzthompson]

dont see the point, a firebase is meant to represent a forward reinforcement position not a foxhole, we already have that in game.

[JKJudgeX]

dont see the point, a firebase is meant to represent a forward reinforcement position not a foxhole, we already have that in game.

Well, the point he was making was that a firebase is a reinforcement point, which, since we're "magically" appearing inside of them, doesn't really represent how these types of positions are really made/used in the field in real life.

A reinforcement position would be fortified, as you see in the picture he kindly posted and the diagrams.

You would not appear standing 20 feet outside of it waiting to be shot in the teeth. You would appear closer, or inside of it, protected from ranged attacks.

This would help reduce the number of times that an AAS map grinds to a halt as an entire enemy team is forced to either make a 5 minute walk from main, or spawn-die indefinitely at camped FB 1 or 2.

It would also serve the purpose of making a Firebase more of a direct threat... a good firebase placed closer to an objective would become a hotspot for good battles, rather than them having to be hidden away and simply serving as ticket-slaughterhouses.

Furthermore, changing the model and spawn rules for firebases isn't asking the devs for hundreds of hours of work, it's a simple request that, if done correctly, would have a highly net positive result.

The original post is a good suggestion.

[arjan]

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... -idea.html

Maybe?

[gazzthompson]

hes suggesting changing the firebase model to a fox hole, why when we already have fox holes ?

[LithiumFox]

It's a fox hole with a cover on it gazz. Look at the diagram, number 4. It's like a foxhole, but with a top on it. =/

Remember the old firebases? the ones that had the sandbags? He's saying something like that... only, more of a gianst mound of dirt that you can crawl into or something... > >

[Herbiie]

No... nonono!
The FB system works fine, if you have a half decent team they will defend it.

[gazzthompson]

more of a gianst mound of dirt that you can crawl into or something... > >

you mean like this:

[Rudd]

I'd love to see the old bunkers return. They were a proper defencive position.

[LithiumFox]

you mean like this:

.... now add a lid to it... > >