Faction specific lazier box
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Oddsodz
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Faction specific lazier box
So this is an idea to stop accidental team kills from aircraft bombs/missiles that are for the most part not the pilots fault.
Right now we have just one lazier system for all Factions. And for the smart ones that know how to use the GTLD. It is very easy to make the OP4 aircraft team kill there own team. It is something that I myself have perfected (The trick is the laze the ground beside the target and hope that the OP4 team drop a bomb on it).
I Wish to see this removed. I Propose that MEC get a sphere marker that only MEC bombs can lock on too. Brits/USA get the normal green square and the PLA get a triangle.
This will stop the "counter Lazing trick" that I invented. As a bomb in transit can and most likely will switch from it's intended target to a new lazier box in it's flight path.
I Know in theory it can be done. But the work to do it will (I Think) mean that 3 new weapons (new versions of GTLD's) will need to be made as well as changes to the bombs/missiles on Faction specific aircraft.
Oh and I forgot about future Russian aircraft so that is 4 new weapons.
I Don't know about real life lazier targeting systems. But I am sure there is some way of stopping friendly bombs/missiles hitting OP4 lazier targets.
What do you think?
Right now we have just one lazier system for all Factions. And for the smart ones that know how to use the GTLD. It is very easy to make the OP4 aircraft team kill there own team. It is something that I myself have perfected (The trick is the laze the ground beside the target and hope that the OP4 team drop a bomb on it).
I Wish to see this removed. I Propose that MEC get a sphere marker that only MEC bombs can lock on too. Brits/USA get the normal green square and the PLA get a triangle.
This will stop the "counter Lazing trick" that I invented. As a bomb in transit can and most likely will switch from it's intended target to a new lazier box in it's flight path.
I Know in theory it can be done. But the work to do it will (I Think) mean that 3 new weapons (new versions of GTLD's) will need to be made as well as changes to the bombs/missiles on Faction specific aircraft.
Oh and I forgot about future Russian aircraft so that is 4 new weapons.
I Don't know about real life lazier targeting systems. But I am sure there is some way of stopping friendly bombs/missiles hitting OP4 lazier targets.
What do you think?
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killonsight95
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Oddsodz
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
Is not PR near future based? And so can be done according to lore?
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Rudd
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
I agree but for a different reason.
I don't like it when lazes are being used to identify targets to other SLs, or that you can see who is getting lazed by others.
I think most people need to be able to see their laze to know when its expired and if they actually hit the target with the laze (since its not moving at lightspeed) But if there is a way to remove the ability to see other people's lazes, I think it would be good.
and tbh I think I can live without being able to see my own lazes as I only generally laze just before the CAS arrives.
I don't like it when lazes are being used to identify targets to other SLs, or that you can see who is getting lazed by others.
I think most people need to be able to see their laze to know when its expired and if they actually hit the target with the laze (since its not moving at lightspeed) But if there is a way to remove the ability to see other people's lazes, I think it would be good.
and tbh I think I can live without being able to see my own lazes as I only generally laze just before the CAS arrives.
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TheLean
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
Are you sure? I thought the lasers were shot in encrypted patterns. (Not a joke, even though it sounds stupid)killonsight95 wrote:- 1 this happen in real life
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killonsight95
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
i'm unsure of this actualy, but i have heard that the enemy can see lases of the enmy in real life

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Alex6714
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
Not possible to do afaik. You have heat and laser, thats it, which are the same for everyone unless vehicle is occupied.
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"
"oh, they're fire and forget all right...they're fired then they forget where the target is"
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ma21212
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
wait...so if ur MEC and laze a Abrams for example the enemy A10 might see the lazer and be able to bomb his own team...?


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Oddsodz
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
Ah pants. I Was hoping that there was some sort of viable that could be changed to make it "Faction specific". IE the colour or shape. And I don't mean for GUI/HUD reasons.Alex6714 wrote:Not possible to do afaik. You have heat and laser, thats it, which are the same for everyone unless vehicle is occupied.
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Oddsodz
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
No. That does not happen right now. You can not do that. The lazed Abrams can not be targeted by the A-10 at that point. But if you laze the ground beside the Abrams. An "A-10" can lock and drop a bomb on to the MEC "Neutral" lazier box. And it will TK the Abrams due to it beaning so close.ma21212 wrote:wait...so if ur MEC and laze a Abrams for example the enemy A10 might see the lazer and be able to bomb his own team...?
Ask L8gi about it as you are CATA. It was me that showed him how to do it. (Silly me)
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Brummy
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
It's still hilarious. Especially when you stop an enemy's assault by using the enemy's CAS 
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Tim270
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
However, If you were to clone the GTLD for each class and give them a new Icon for the laze surely this could be done? Even if only SL's could see it, they could call off CAS. (Just theory, I actually like it as it is.)Alex6714 wrote:Not possible to do afaik. You have heat and laser, thats it, which are the same for everyone unless vehicle is occupied.
'This will stop the "counter Lazing trick" that I invented' - lol.

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Alex6714
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
No, because as I said you have heat and laser target objects to work with. You can make the hud look like you want but the laser is there, and the laser is there for everyone.Tim270 wrote:However, If you were to clone the GTLD for each class and give them a new Icon for the laze surely this could be done? Even if only SL's could see it, they could call off CAS. (Just theory, I actually like it as it is.)
'This will stop the "counter Lazing trick" that I invented' - lol.
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"
"oh, they're fire and forget all right...they're fired then they forget where the target is"
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Tim270
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Re: Faction specific lazier box
Alex6714 wrote:No, because as I said you have heat and laser target objects to work with. You can make the hud look like you want but the laser is there, and the laser is there for everyone.
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nvm delete the post.



