New russian camo and body armor

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rushn
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New russian camo and body armor

Post by rushn »

I know the devs have been working on new desert russian camo but i know russians alredy have the new woodland camo out and they alredy gave it to some troops



here is the picture showing the new woodland camo (camo is on the right side)

i hope the new body armor and the new camo will make it in .9
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Hotrod525
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by Hotrod525 »

I would love if Russian got the new camo, but, by always requesting everything for 0.9 it wont EVER been release. So leave .9 alone, start worrying about 0.95X
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rushn
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by rushn »

how about .91? :p
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by gazzthompson »

i doubt it works like that, the DEVs probably have a work schedule. they probably have .9xx already planned mostly out. adding something basic like this would just put everything back.

Plus a DEV is serving in the russian army so its safe to assume they know of this update. and im pretty sure this has been posted before.

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https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... ost1227832
rushn
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by rushn »

alright cool beans i hope you are right
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by USMCMIDN »

The Russian Military is still trying to upgrade its older body armor to the more modern 6B11-2 and 6B12-2. When this new body armor is mass produced (the one you talked about) it will take a long time for this to be regular issue for the infantry, because the Russians are having trouble issuing the 11 and 12 as of now

talk to this guy he will give you much more information on the subject and he really knows what he is talking about...

[R-DEV]Nosferatu

he will have much more information on this subject and after talking to him about this topic and researching what he has said to me he knows his shit.
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rushn
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by rushn »

usually they try to give the best equipment to people who are going to battles while those who stat back use old stuff.

thanks for the comment i am sure ill talk to the guy
H.sta
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by H.sta »

They stole the finnish camo, how nice
rushn
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by rushn »

what Finnish camo???

are you talking about this>http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2 ... sh-m05.jpg

because that is different
H.sta
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

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I read a case about the finnish army getting pissed since this russian camo is the same camo as their M- 05, but russia does not have copyright laws that extend to this

http://defensetech.org/2008/12/01/new-r ... ish-angst/
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... age-design
http://www.defencetalk.com/finnish-mili ... ern-16235/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008 ... hier-camo/
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Russia ... 5241028763

there nobody can say i don't give sources :D

this one is probably the best one:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... age-design
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by DankE_SPB »

H.sta wrote:They stole the finnish camo, how nice
meh, dont start this "they stole(copied) something", even if it looks similar, it doesn't there were no researches and testing of other stuff. Camo for similiar environment will may end up look same just because it works and there is no point in, how we say, inventing bicycle again, just to be "special"
yeah, its exactly same :roll:
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

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DankE_SPB wrote:meh, dont start this "they stole(copied) something", even if it looks similar, it doesn't there were no researches and testing of other stuff. Camo for similiar environment will may end up look same just because it works and there is no point in, how we say, inventing bicycle again, just to be "special"

yeah, its exactly same :roll:
I was just informing... i was bored

but doesn't this thread belong in the Russian forces faction area?

all i know was that one of my friends in the finnish army was mad becouse he was afraid he couldn't see the differnce between a russian soldier and one of his own in case of a war
Spieler
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

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H.sta wrote: Russian forces faction area?
Can you show so?
rushn
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

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really theres a russian army area? show me teh thread!
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by gazzthompson »

probably means the russian community section, which has been removed. as for similarity with finish camo... looks nothing alike.
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by Bringerof_D »

war is war, theres no such thing as copying, only reverse engineering. also it looks nothing alike.

war is one place where there should be no rules (exceptions are the Geneva convention's rules, those are for protecting civis, those are fine. Against any combatants is what i mean) anything it takes to win.
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by bloodthirsty_viking »

guys, on the one http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008 ... hier-camo/ source, there talking about
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Russian Image

its a little farther down the page XD

i will admit, it looks similar XD
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by DankE_SPB »

bloodthirsty_viking wrote:Russian Image
its a little farther down the page XD
i will admit, it looks similar XD
now please find the manufacturer of it and if it was accepted into service, then we will talk ;-)
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by Bob_Marley »

DankE_SPB wrote:now please find the manufacturer of it and if it was accepted into service, then we will talk ;-)
The photo that caused the controversy - MVD troops in Georgia, 2008

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Chap on the far left, wearing "Yeger" pattern. And before anyone else jumps up and down, the Russian copy of DPM "smog" (according to one chap I've talked to is apparently due to misinterpreting the word smock on a whole bunch of suplus DPM smocks the Soviets bought, thinking that it refurred to the pattern not the garment and the name stuck) has been known about for years.

Finnish M/05:

http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00242.php

Russian Yeger:

http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00261.php

As I'm sure you can see, they are not the same pattern. They're similar, wihtout question, but they're not the same.

Case closed.
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Re: New russian camo and body armor

Post by Herbiie »

H.sta wrote:all i know was that one of my friends in the finnish army was mad becouse he was afraid he couldn't see the differnce between a russian soldier and one of his own in case of a war
Point of Camo is that you don't get seen at all ;)

Also as a basic soldier you just fire at whoever you're ordered to fire at, that's the point of Fire Control orders. The officers will know where friendlies are, and also the weapons will be different.

Anyway from bob's picture - the Russian army doesn't seem organised enough to bring out a new Camo and make sure it's issued to everyone. Imho that photo makes them look like airsofters :p
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