[Weapon] mk19 [WIP]

[Wilkinson]

I know this will probably be mounted on Humvees and Possibly the back of the chinook.

Maybe this would be replacement for 1 HMG? instead of both? Idk that's all coding stuff. Gotta finish the texture

[Alucard]

humvee's dont have a m-19 mounted on them often i doubt they'd put them on a humvee if it were introduced it would be on the door of the chinook and on maps with 2 strykers which is basicly every map with a stryker one stryker gets a m19 and one gets a .50 cal i think this would be the best use for the m19 as for fobs considering that the effective range is 1500 for the m19 it would be good as a deployable asset as well however you have the mortar coming out so im told so having hmg's tows' mortar's and m19's on a fob how is anyone suppost to beat that anywayyyyys main point being strykers need more fire power and also in real life the apache can be outfitted with a 40mm grenade launcher instead of the chain gun i don't believe it uses the m19 but you could prolly slap it on there as well for a while see how it goes vs the chain gun it would be close to the havok's 30mm but better

[Arnoldio]

humvee's dont have a m-19 mounted on them often i doubt they'd put them on a humvee if it were introduced it would be on the door of the chinook and on maps with 2 strykers which is basicly every map with a stryker one stryker gets a m19 and one gets a .50 cal i think this would be the best use for the m19 as for fobs considering that the effective range is 1500 for the m19 it would be good as a deployable asset as well however you have the mortar coming out so im told so having hmg's tows' mortar's and m19's on a fob how is anyone suppost to beat that anywayyyyys main point being strykers need more fire power and also in real life the apache can be outfitted with a 40mm grenade launcher instead of the chain gun i don't believe it uses the m19 but you could prolly slap it on there as well for a while see how it goes vs the chain gun it would be close to the havok's 30mm but better

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Nuff said.

Mk19 humvee could be like the CROWs one on karbala. Rare but its there.

[Alucard]

well PR is not always to accurate on what the U.S. army really uses like for one all m1a2's come with 2 MG's on top the army rarely uses the ah-6's there part of a task force that works with the 75th ranger regiment instead of the AH-6's in PR it should have the oh-58 warrior on maps that have lb's instead of the LB or like the USMC's UH-1Y's in the game the uh-1Y otherwise known as the venom almost always has at least 2 door mounted m240 Delta's or GAU 16 .50 cal but im told by people that the devs will not introduce the mark 19 cause it will be overpowered so they say but you'd have to look at it this way were aiming to get the stryker a little more fire power i have a friend that is in the 101 that says 50% of the strykers in iraq have mark 19's on them but they also always have RPG skirting as well as another thing that isn't in PR which should be in the game but as far as i see the mark 19 wouldn't be toooo over powered if they shortened the range to 150-200m's (the effetive range with the sight of the real m19 is 1500 yards and with a spotter is 2300) but were not going for realism on that point were going for the strykers having more fire power so you take the m203's blast radius and reduce it by 25% or 50% then make the rate of fire to that of the lav's 20mm gun and your golden it wouldn't be to over powered thats my thoughts on the matter anyways

EDIT: also ya the humvee's do come with m19's but not very often m19's are seen more on strykers but the army does use mark 19's on the humvee's quite a bit to but im sure the dev's would call it over powered on a humvee also i wouldn't be sad if they got rid of one m2 mg for the fob and give you a m19 instead but like i said before having a m19 on the fob will prolly be overpowered even i'll admit that lulz even though i love the mark 19

[Rudd]

army rarely uses the ah-6's

its a placeholder mate

have RPG skirting

iirc there have been alot of bugs with the RPG cages, which is why they aren't seen in PR atm.

the mark 19 wouldn't be toooo over powered if they shortened the range to 150-200m's

I expect it will be like a HEAT round with a pronunced parabolic trajectory, this is relevant to other vehicles as well.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f318-2 ... vc7a1.html

[Alucard]

Rudd;1364100']its a placeholder mate



iirc there have been alot of bugs with the RPG cages, which is why they aren't seen in PR atm.



I expect it will be like a HEAT round with a pronunced parabolic trajectory, this is relevant to other vehicles as well.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f318-2 ... vc7a1.html

so can you tell us if the warrior is in the works? cause i seen the warrior in the mortar video with sniper dog and i was wondering if it would be put in at a later point as well and can you tell us if the m19 is being considered? and i didn't notice we were adding the AAV thats another vehicle that uses the m19 i just didn't think it'd ever be in PR so i didn't mention it

EDIT: also the warrior APC (not the oh-58 warrior xD)has some RPG skirts so whats with this so called bug with RPG's skirts?

[Drunkenup]

well PR is not always to accurate on what the U.S. army really uses like for one all m1a2's come with 2 MG's on top the army rarely uses the ah-6's there part of a task force that works with the 75th ranger regiment instead of the AH-6's in PR it should have the oh-58 warrior on maps that have lb's instead of the LB or like the USMC's UH-1Y's in the game the uh-1Y otherwise known as the venom almost always has at least 2 door mounted m240 Delta's or GAU 16 .50 cal but im told by people that the devs will not introduce the mark 19 cause it will be overpowered so they say but you'd have to look at it this way were aiming to get the stryker a little more fire power i have a friend that is in the 101 that says 50% of the strykers in iraq have mark 19's on them but they also always have RPG skirting as well as another thing that isn't in PR which should be in the game but as far as i see the mark 19 wouldn't be toooo over powered if they shortened the range to 150-200m's (the effetive range with the sight of the real m19 is 1500 yards and with a spotter is 2300) but were not going for realism on that point were going for the strykers having more fire power so you take the m203's blast radius and reduce it by 25% or 50% then make the rate of fire to that of the lav's 20mm gun and your golden it wouldn't be to over powered thats my thoughts on the matter anyways

EDIT: also ya the humvee's do come with m19's but not very often m19's are seen more on strykers but the army does use mark 19's on the humvee's quite a bit to but im sure the dev's would call it over powered on a humvee also i wouldn't be sad if they got rid of one m2 mg for the fob and give you a m19 instead but like i said before having a m19 on the fob will prolly be overpowered even i'll admit that lulz even though i love the mark 19

I think your facts may be wrong... Judging by how you designate the Mk 19, incorrectly as m19, I doubt your sources are correct. Theres always a way to correct a overpowered weapon, i.e. the AGS-30. We don't have the M240 on the M1A2 because its a waste of resources, the OH-58D because its still in development, and the UH-1Y because... the UH-1N is far more common in the USMC and its enough for now. LAV-25 has a 25mm cannon, not 20mm.

Your argument on the power and range of the Mk 19 is invalid. Its already limited by view distance, and its not like the Mk-19 is exactly pin point accurate, and its 40mm rounds, which I would expect would be loaded with HE, won't have as good as a affect on other vehicles....
Plus I wouldn't expect that its going to replace everything.... I would expect it to be as rare as the CROWS mounted Humvees and probably 1 to a FOB.

[Alucard]

for one i call it the m19 cause its easier i know the actual designation is mk19 as for the LAV's 20mm that was a type-o that i didn't notice cause i was thinking of something else and wasn't paying attention my friend in the 101 repairs air craft and the oh-58 warrior has been used since the the 60's and or 70's "The OH-58 has been in continuous use by the U.S. Army since 1969." i just asked my friend thats a quote from wiki the oh-58 has been used for many years in the US army also the UH-1n as well as the UH-1Y use door mounted m240's and gau-16's maybe you should get your facts straight before you rant on me

EDIT: also sorry about being how we say pissy about the way i said that drunk but i just don't like your attitude towards what i said but also your right i shouldn't say m19 as a shortcut cause that can be confused with the mortar i apologize also the m19 may be limited by view distance in PR however the problem with that is if you get a spotter with a marker you can sit in main and shoot mk19's out at the marker yes it may not be that accurate but you should still get kills that way

[AnimalMother.]

also in real life the apache can be outfitted with a 40mm grenade launcher instead of the chain gun i don't believe it uses the m19 but you could prolly slap it on there as well for a while see how it goes vs the chain gun it would be close to the havok's 30mm but better

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? i dont see how the GL (mk19 or not) would be better then the Apaches chain gun as it is 30mm (30x113), just slightly smaller rounds compared to the havocs 30x165

The only attack helicopter i know thats featured GLs as part of its armament are the early huey cobras that had a combination of 7.62mm minigun and 40mm GL (M129) on them, but that was replaced by the modern 20mm cannon


as for GLs on aircraft from reading this when it first cropped up i dont think we're going to be seeing them
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... oks-2.html



as for the FB discussion, have it as a toss up between TOW or mortar and x2 HMG or GMG. So if a squad wants to defend or provide firesupport it can choose how to fortify it's FOB area accordingly

[Alucard]

the apache can be outfitted with it the reason it would be better is the HEDP 40mm round has a bigger kill radius then the chain gun but we don't really need it on the apache no i was just suggesting roles it can fill like mounting it on the back of the chiny or on the door would be nice cause i land on hamburger hill a lot on archer or the village in silent eagle and have infantry shooting at me while i do it so it would be nice to have the chiny be armed

[charliegrs]

for one i call it the m19 cause its easier i know the actual designation is mk19 as for the LAV's 20mm that was a type-o that i didn't notice cause i was thinking of something else and wasn't paying attention my friend in the 101 repairs air craft and the oh-58 warrior has been used since the the 60's and or 70's "The OH-58 has been in continuous use by the U.S. Army since 1969." i just asked my friend thats a quote from wiki the oh-58 has been used for many years in the US army also the UH-1n as well as the UH-1Y use door mounted m240's and gau-16's maybe you should get your facts straight before you rant on me

EDIT: also sorry about being how we say pissy about the way i said that drunk but i just don't like your attitude towards what i said but also your right i shouldn't say m19 as a shortcut cause that can be confused with the mortar i apologize also the m19 may be limited by view distance in PR however the problem with that is if you get a spotter with a marker you can sit in main and shoot mk19's out at the marker yes it may not be that accurate but you should still get kills that way

no offense man, but there wasnt one period in that whole post. its making my brain hurt.

[Silly_Savage]

no offense man, but there wasnt one period in that whole post. its making my brain hurt.

Oh? Just teasing.

for one i call it the m19 cause its easier i know the actual designation is mk19 as for the LAV's 20mm that was a type-o that i didn't notice cause i was thinking of something else and wasn't paying attention my friend in the 101 repairs air craft and the oh-58 warrior has been used since the the 60's and or 70's "The OH-58 has been in continuous use by the U.S. Army since 1969." i just asked my friend thats a quote from wiki the oh-58 has been used for many years in the US army also the UH-1n as well as the UH-1Y use door mounted m240's and gau-16's maybe you should get your facts straight before you rant on me

EDIT: also sorry about being how we say pissy about the way i said that drunk but i just don't like your attitude towards what i said but also your right i shouldn't say m19 as a shortcut cause that can be confused with the mortar i apologize also the m19 may be limited by view distance in PR however the problem with that is if you get a spotter with a marker you can sit in main and shoot mk19's out at the marker yes it may not be that accurate but you should still get kills that way

[AnimalMother.]

^^ i was so tempted to do that myself

[Eddie Baker]

the apache can be outfitted with it the reason it would be better is the HEDP 40mm round has a bigger kill radius then the chain gun but we don't really need it

Interesting. Do you have a source on that?

As to the Mk-19 not on HMMWVs very often, in the 'D' weapons company of Army infantry battalions (light/airborne/air assault) there are four assault platoons, with two sections each of two HMMWV weapon carriers and the platoon leaders vehicle (also weapon carrier). Two vehicles (one section) in each platoon have the capability to mount the TOW ITAS. The remaining vehicles mount M2 or Mk-19, usually one vehicle each, to have the capabilities of all of those weapons in a single unit.

Likewise with Army HMMWV mounted cavalry scout platoons / sections; each section of two vehicles has 1 x Mk-19 and 1 x M2.

Marine infantry battalions have a similar organization/operating procedure in their weapons companies. On paper the machine guns (M2 / Mk-19) and TOWs are in separate platoons, but operationally the units get formed into Combined Anti-Armor Team Platoons, which, as their name suggests, combine the capabilities of those systems by pairing missiles with heavy MGs.

So, I don't see how they can not use it very often.

[Alucard]

well i am not in the army as of yet i got about 6 months before i sign up so im going by what i've been told by people that are in the army and i've been told that they don't seem mk19's very often on humvve's as for the 40mm GL capability i read it somewhere in a magazine as a upgrade program from the 64A apache im not sure if they have implemented it since i read the magazine it was about 2 years ago so i am not for sure on the fact if it can be outfitted with them now or not

[richyrich55]

Oh god...I can see the bodies splitting apart now...

[Sgt. Mahi]

It looks soooo sweet. Want it now

[masterceo]

well i am not in the army as of yet i got about 6 months before i sign up so im going by what i've been told by people that are in the army and i've been told that they don't seem mk19's very often on humvve's as for the 40mm GL capability i read it somewhere in a magazine as a upgrade program from the 64A apache im not sure if they have implemented it since i read the magazine it was about 2 years ago so i am not for sure on the fact if it can be outfitted with them now or not

oh look, it's "Zero Punctuation" from The Escapist

Next time, please use at least points, my eyes got so tired after the 4th line I had to stop for a moment.

[PuffNStuff]

The original post to this with a WIP model was almost 2 years ago. I lost hope for this 1 year ago.

[motherdear]

The original post to this with a WIP model was almost 2 years ago. I lost hope for this 1 year ago.

no worries, this is in good hands (aka dev ones)

models take a LOOOOOONG time to get into game. My original aav has taken more than a year to get ingame now. These things don't just happen.