Pubber just a name for noob?

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Trooper909
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Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Trooper909 »

I will start by saying I know its not but I see this word used all the time to mean noobs.

sentences like these.
Pubber teams rarely know what there doing,if your on a server full of pubbers you must expect crashed choppers TKs and no tactics.

Now the above is both true and false.Alot of the community are pubbers also many retard are pubbers also.above can be true of clans also.
Basicaly anyone who dont wear tags is a pubber right?

The question is is there a certen stigma to being a pubber rather than being in a known clan?

I think it is alot harder to prove your a good player without tags like if I for example had [insert random pr clan name here] tags peaple would assume I could play right?
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(Uses PRT as example below)

Pubber was referring to how they were playing in a Public setting, rather than in a private tournament or clan based setting, where as a PRT member was usually thought to have a higher understanding of the game, a better value to playing the game, and much more experience in how to use the weapons to their advantage than the standard pubber.

Usually, that is not the case, but occasionally you can tell through how they squad lead or command. Some well known and actually good members of the PRT are quite full of leadership, and almost make you feel like you are playing a realistic protrayal of the game.

Pubbers just refer to people who either do not partake in PRT, are not a Dev or Mod or Tester, or are not well-known enough around the PR community

EG. Rudd_Medicman is a well known forum guy, as far as i know

Eg. PepsiMachine, L4gi, and P.Funk are well known from PRT, as well as EddieReyes (MOD)

Eg. Any Dev would probably not be considered a pubber, as they made the freakin game. XD




And like below, also refer to clans...

But a lot of the times if you see a PRT guy using it, they usually use it for ALL people. XD


Doesn't generally mean you have to be a part of a clan to not be considered a pubber. Even clans are considered if they don't give a ****. =/
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Tim270
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Tim270 »

Yeah I would say anyone who is not wearing clan tags is a pubbie or pubber, and I would agree that it is the general view that most 'pubbies' are noobs. Obviously, not all players are, there are a lot of people who are bad that play in clans.

What I would say is that teams with clans on them generally are more organized. When it comes to team-wide tactics, often a full squad of said clan are going to follow their SL'S orders and be more co-ordinated. This is not to say that clanless players are not, but on the whole clans and teams that play a lot of battles/scrims/prt have a good understanding of battle tactics, and most likely are to be people that play the game a lot.
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Post by Sgt.BountyOrig »

A "Pubber" Is a Random Player that is not in a clan, or is in a clan but alone, or in low numbers in a public server.
"Pubbing" is the use of a Public server
To "pub" is to go and use a public server

People do look up to clans for guidance, since they often have organised themselves around PR, and will often develop tactics to become the best clan.

If a person is in a clan, but without a prefix, this may be that they are A) Not wearing their tags, or B) Using another account without tags.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by BloodBane611 »

I've seen plenty of clannies who are jerks, and plenty of pubbies who are really awesome team players. Nothing shameful in not being in a clan, PR players are generally a cut above the rest when it comes to teamwork and skill.
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dtacs
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by dtacs »

LithiumFox wrote:Actually, pubbers was a term that came from the Project Reality Tournament because of the higher standards set, and the fact that they practice quite often on tactics and teamwork.

Pubber was referring to how they were playing in a Public setting, rather than in a private tournament based setting

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Um no....pubbers came from games aeons ago(CS 1.6 etc) reffering to people who just played public games, ie 'lets just pub', as opposed to pugs and ladder matches. PR didn't coin the term.

But in PR, he is correct in saying it is reffering to those who usually either don't give a dam about teamwork and just 'pub'.
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dtacs wrote:usually either don't give a dam about teamwork and just 'pub'.
Well as BloodBane said, I know a lot of pubbers who are excellent team players.
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Post by LithiumFox »

Usually the "pubber" part is used in reference to how they don't act as team players

Eg. Lonewolfs

PR is a team based game, and sadly, people are starting to lose focus of that as the DEVS are starting to Nerf everything... =(

(about as bad as Blizzard T_T)

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Stoic Sentinel wrote:Well as BloodBane said, I know a lot of pubbers who are excellent team players.
Hence why the term is redundant as it refers to both sides of the coin.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Bringerof_D »

Trooper909 wrote:I will start by saying I know its not but I see this word used all the time to mean noobs.

sentences like these.
Pubber teams rarely know what there doing,if your on a server full of pubbers you must expect crashed choppers TKs and no tactics.

Now the above is both true and false.Alot of the community are pubbers also many retard are pubbers also.above can be true of clans also.
Basicaly anyone who dont wear tags is a pubber right?

The question is is there a certen stigma to being a pubber rather than being in a known clan?

I think it is alot harder to prove your a good player without tags like if I for example had [insert random pr clan name here] tags peaple would assume I could play right?
i think that mostly means in a server full of pubbers (in a server opening to the general public, the untagged/unknown public. in other words they could be anyone who play however.) when they say expect crashed choppers, tks etc. it's not that pubbers are noobs. its that in a public server no one goes in organized so it's hard to have teamwork when no one knows each other. in terms of tks...well private servers would probably boot all of them so pub servers are where they end up. noobs crashing choppers, since it's open to general public who knows who's gettin in those things

it simply refers to people who are currently playing in a public server, like me! :D i dont tk (on purpose) i dont fly since my connection aint that awesome so i dont crash anything, and i love teamwork and tactics.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by LithiumFox »

I don't know..

I don't remember if in the PRT we used the term Pubbers or Pubbies.....

I know one was derogatory. =/ At least to us.


Also: My argument wins because my Epeen and my JoinDateEpeen are > than most of your's. (OMG Bloodbane... o_O How often are you on this forum? PLAY MOAR PR XD)

(o god i feel like i'm going to get pwned in a few seconds)

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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

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Been playing myself for many years now and ask these questions out of pure curiosity as for the all the years playing I have never experienced being in a clan or PRT.

For me peaple allways assume im a noob im a pubber who dont/cant use a mic.Noob alert right? :lol: Thats why I never bother to join a clan or do PRT im not the best individuel player but I think im a great team player and willing to do anything asked of me by my SL and thats what matters in this game.
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Trooper909 wrote:Been playing myself for many years now and ask these questions out of pure curiosity as for the all the years playing I have never experienced being in a clan or PRT.

For me peaple allways assume im a noob im a pubber who dont/cant use a mic.Noob alert right? :lol: Thats why I never bother to join a clan or do PRT im not the best individuel player but I think im a great team player and willing to do anything asked of me by my SL and thats what matters in this game.
You should... really... REALLY... get a mic. XD That'll help right away....

unless you can't speak, then you can tell people you have no voice so a mic wouldn't do you any good. lol.

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Trooper909
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

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LithiumFox wrote:You should... really... REALLY... get a mic. XD That'll help right away....

unless you can't speak, then you can tell people you have no voice so a mic wouldn't do you any good. lol.
lol I got one I just cant use it My job makes me work funny hours and I play mostly real late at night and i cant go shouting when my kid is sleeping.I can type real fast and not having a mic rarely effects my playing I can type nme 255 at a blink of an eye 8-)

Its just limmets me on what roles I can take like for example I will never SL or join a tank squad.I just play any squad member role and I mean I can play any role well in a good squad.As a pubber though I must roll the dice of getting a good SL.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by LithiumFox »

Easier idea:

Sound Proof Room. :)

XD lol

Anyways, you could at least use the mic to say "Hey, my effing kid is asleep. STFU"


....what they should do is come up with night school... but i guess that would lead to even MORE child predators... D:

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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Winstonkalkaros »

It doesn't matter. I am pubber. All my friends play PR as a pubber. Being in a clan is not a requirement in PR. Being a temaplayer is all that matters.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Rudd »

pubbers just describes players who aren't part of any kind of regular organised gameplay, this can take the form of a clan/tourney or just regular server members.

when we get a few mates together we are going 'pubbing' "fancy pubbing on UKWF?" etc, its basically the gaming version of a pub crawl to an extent :P
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by BadGuy »

Funny never heard of them, but I do call a guy who does not do teamwork a noob. This Pubby stuff is all a trend popping up from maybe one server.
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Web_cole »

LithiumFox wrote:Usually the "pubber" part is used in reference to how they don't act as team players
That's probably basically it. When I use the term it's generally to mean players who are unknown to me and assumed to not be good teamplayers. A pubbie is guilty until proven innocent. It does not necessarily mean 'noob', however.

I'd say anyone I've played with at least once or see quite often on a server I don't consider a pubbie(although I might consider them something else after that :p ) and anyone who frequents these forums I don't consider a pubbie.

In essence, it refers to the faceless, unwashed masses. Yes I'm elitist, get over it ;)
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Re: Pubber just a name for noob?

Post by Rhino »

For a start the term is NOT "Pubber", it is "Pubbie" and all it is is to describe the average player playing the game (in this case PR). Skill is not a factor.
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