Road-killing - Your Opinion

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supahpingi
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Post by supahpingi »

I always run people over,might be unrealistic but its ingame so ill use it if i have to.

Its only as a last resort tough,if i cant kill you in any other way.
karambaitos
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Post by karambaitos »

road killing is just stupid especially since the driver is more like behind a thick metal wall than behind glass and a bit of aluminum (talking about trucks and jeeps), but i dont mind being run over if i was in the way of the NME vehicle its my own fault anyway, but if they turn around or go for you when your to the side thats just stupid.

Anyway you can avoid being run over by trucks if you go prone at the right time so he thinks he got you xD
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WithoutPurpose
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Post by WithoutPurpose »

If i'm driving a car and I see some dudes firing at me from <50 meters, I just ride them over. It's not that I take a car with the purpose of riding people over.
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HunterMed
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Post by HunterMed »

Killing is killing. I find it very stupid that some server have rules against it. It just increases the whining in all chat... If you dont want to die you better take cover when a vehicle is approaching.

Making up rules like this only damages the gameplay. Not really enforceable and nonsense anyway.

If I am driving and meet an enemy squad I sure as hell wont stop the truck get out and let them shoot me. Why would any sane person do that?
I'd try to get away or run them over. Not realistic maybe, but it counts that there is one less enemy shooting at you and the way you do it is not a priority.
BenHamish
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Post by BenHamish »

Make the soft skinned vehicles in PR actually vulnerable to small arms like they are in real life and the problem is solved.

Nowadays I don't even bother shooting at trucks and cars because they are invincible. If the full squad fires, sometimes the driver or passenger is wounded, but they just drive all the way back to main and patch up.

Can we not make it so that squads travel to battle in trucks/cars but then dismount to fight? Usually on maps such as Muttrah it makes sense to all get in the transport-truck 'tank' and drive straight past enemy squads. if anyone gets hit the medic will heal them inside as you carry on to the destination.

As for Dtac's vid.. I hate roadkilling because you can't defend yourself by shooting the driver.. But that was fecking hilarious and encouraged me to use the exploit.

And that's what it is - Roadkilling is an exploit.
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BloodBane611
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Post by BloodBane611 »

BenHamish wrote:And that's what it is - Roadkilling is an exploit.
I agree. However, fixing it is a huge task, so I think to some extent everyone just needs to adapt. I recommend finding a tree :D
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Psyko
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Post by Psyko »

roadkilling makes absolute sense. the only difference id make would be...

cars take less damage from terrain...
and slightly more damage from 556 and 762 rounds.
Hotrod525
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Post by Hotrod525 »

well no we arent train for that, but i know real story of real afghan people being roll over by military vehicle, accident happen, honestly every road kill i made ( in PR...) werent volounteer... when i'm coming at max speed on the road and i seen an OpFor standing right in the middle of the road... well, too bad.
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Mongolian_dude
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Post by Mongolian_dude »

It only happens in game because RL un-armoured vehicles that are portrayed in game are armoured, in that they dont allow bullets to penetrate them. Its totally unrealistic as an effective method of engaging hostile infantry in a combat environment and undermines many of the changes the DEVs have strived to make the game more realistic. Almost exploitative, in that sense.
Not on my watch!


With that said, there comes the time when a combatant steps out infront of your vehicle down the road ahead. If a soldier lacked the ability to engage him through conventional means, roadkilling presents itself as the last hope of overcoming the challenge and therefore it is acceptable to run him over. I dont think players should roll out of their main with the intent of running people over.



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Psyko
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Post by Psyko »

[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:It only happens in game because RL un-armoured vehicles that are portrayed in game are armoured, in that they dont allow bullets to penetrate them. Its totally unrealistic as an effective method of engaging hostile infantry in a combat environment and undermines many of the changes the DEVs have strived to make the game more realistic. Almost exploitative, in that sense.
Not on my watch!


With that said, there comes the time when a combatant steps out infront of your vehicle down the road ahead. If a soldier lacked the ability to engage him through conventional means, roadkilling presents itself as the last hope of overcoming the challenge and therefore it is acceptable to run him over. I dont think players should roll out of their main with the intent of running people over.



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what? no... which unarmoured vehicels are armoured?
illidur
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to hell with that.... i'll go brock samson on their fairy squad.
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KEIOS
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Post by KEIOS »

It might be annoying to get roadkilled, but it shouldn't be forbidden. Sometimes its the only thing you can do, to stay alive.
Limitbreaker
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Post by Limitbreaker »

Soldiers ahead. I ram!

Oh, firebase. I ram!

Too hilarous to remove and yeah I'm the ******* who likes doing that with Hueys on Muttrah.
tntkid22
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Post by tntkid22 »

Limitbreaker wrote:Soldiers ahead. I ram!

Oh, firebase. I ram!

Too hilarous to remove and yeah I'm the ******* who likes doing that with Hueys on Muttrah.
ah that beautiful Russian.


If they're in the road I will ram them, or if i take fire from them I will. I dont circle back tho because I always get shot out of the bullet proof glass Humvee XD
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SeanRamey
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Post by SeanRamey »

Ok, I don't think that running over somebody with say a humvee is going to do hardly anything to it but if it was a smaller vehicle then yes there would be some considerable damage. I also think that road killing is totally legitimate because if I see an enemy squad that is in range for me to road kill ON THE WAY to wherever I am going then I'm going to try to hit them cuz I know that they see or hear me and they will SHOOT ME OUT OF MY SEAT IF THEY GET THE CHANCE, so I will equally RUN THEM OVER IF I HAVE THE CHANCE (Remember THIS IS WAR). Now just going around and running people over is not right and trying to run somebody over and missing and then turning around just to try again is not right and its also STUPID cuz then they are ready to shoot you out of your seat now. I also will not run somebody over if I have a gunner in my vehicle that is shooting at them. Now if my gunner dies I might try to run them over.
I can shoot, but I can also do something that is easier and less likely to get me killed than stopping and shooting, and I could just report them (which I will do either way, running them over or not), but killing them NOW is better than letting them live to shoot my buddies later. It isn't unrealistic and you should take every opportunity you have to eliminate an enemy and increase your chances of completing an objective. You may also say that it sucks to be run over, well it also sucks to be shot, and to be honest I really don't mind being run over. I just think to myself "aww darnit, I didn't move fast enough" and continue with the game. I don't get all moody over it. And I seem to get shot out of my seat quite a bit through this bullet proof glass everybody is talking about, and I can shoot people out of vehicles too. However the vehicles should be slowed some and take more damage from bullets. That's all my thoughts on being run over.
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Maverick
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Post by Maverick »

Just make it so insurgents/us/ any faction or whatevers, just make it so that you can duck below the said vehicle, or raise the vehicle's model and scale it bigger, shouldn't be that hard to do right? CA has done this, so it's possible.
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ZephyrDark
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Post by ZephyrDark »

I'm still wondering why people keep saying that they "wouldn't stop and get out of the vehicle". I know nobody would. My question right now, again, is do you HAVE to kill everyone you see while driving? This could be take as a rhetorical question and the answer is NO. If I'm in a city driving down a road and I see some hostiles in front of me, I'm gonna floor it and keep on going, doing my best not to get shot. If they're on the side of the road I won't swerve to smear them over my radiator, but if they running like bloody idiots in front of me, I personally would run them down since its they're fault they didn't get out of the way.

Remember: I am not suggestion anything be changed, this is just a friendly discussion to get other people's opinion on this controversial subject.
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SeanRamey
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Post by SeanRamey »

ZephyrDark wrote:I'm still wondering why people keep saying that they "wouldn't stop and get out of the vehicle". I know nobody would. My question right now, again, is do you HAVE to kill everyone you see while driving? This could be take as a rhetorical question and the answer is NO. If I'm in a city driving down a road and I see some hostiles in front of me, I'm gonna floor it and keep on going, doing my best not to get shot. If they're on the side of the road I won't swerve to smear them over my radiator, but if they running like bloody idiots in front of me, I personally would run them down since its they're fault they didn't get out of the way.

Remember: I am not suggestion anything be changed, this is just a friendly discussion to get other people's opinion on this controversial subject.
Well personally I would swerve if it wasn't more than 25-50 meters off my path. But thats the limit, cuz anymore than that makes me an easier target to hit since i'm coming from farther off but If I'm already in that range I might as well try for them.
my 25 - 50 meters is probably really off so I'm thinking about from one side of a 4 lane highway to the other.
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Rudd
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Post by Rudd »

What I want - colliding with bodies to cause damage to the vehicle. Then you could ram a couple, but a heavy load hitting your vehicle, especially civilian vehicles would just screw it up big time.

My current ethos ingame is, I'm not swerving if your in the way, but I'm not going to turn to get you intentionally.
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WithoutPurpose
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Post by WithoutPurpose »

ZephyrDark wrote: do you HAVE to kill everyone you see while driving?
Answer to your question; no.


But-


Do you have to shoot at everyone driving? No.

Atleast, that's what I do, unless I'm 100% sure that I will kill the driver or disable the vehicles.
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