Some map titles

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Acecombatzer0
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Some map titles

Post by Acecombatzer0 »

I recently noticed that some maps might be missing "Operation" in their title. For example, Baracuda, Marlin, and Archer have the respective "Operation" in the title, yet Dragonfly, Iron Eagle, and Silent Eagle do not. Are those maps supposed to be "Operations" or are they just random map titles.

The same goes with Qingling. It is not called "Qinling" it is called "Battle for Qingling." So would it make sense to add "Battle of" in every map title or to drop Qingling's title?

Just a little feedback for map titles. I wanna know anyone elses opinion. :)
Cheiftain_UK
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Cheiftain_UK »

A good point i suppose it comes down to the individual mappers opinion. The actual reasons each word are used in different situations can be shown using an example e.g:

Battle of Stalingrad was part of Operation Barbarossa

The point is : a battle is an event where two sides fight over a certain place/ area of military importance however and operation is a military codeword used by an army to summarise its campaign in a certain war such as Operation Overlord (Normandy invasion).

Back to PR, battles would probably be more accurate if you use the above logic however i think a good mix seems to work well.
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Acecombatzer0
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Acecombatzer0 »

Yeah, but where do names such as "Dragonfly" come from? Is it the title of Great Britain's supposed operation on their assualt on a Militia-held city? Is Iron Eagle named after the movie? Or was it a mix between Iron Ridge and Silent Eagle? Bit confused here... :l

EDIT: I know that the mappers named the maps, but I would like to know where they come from, and why some maps have the "Operation" and "Battle of" title, while others do not.
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Cheiftain_UK »

Ok , sorry if i didnt answer the question properly! :( Im afraid you are probably best waiting for a response from a mapper its most likely a personal choice on what name they thought suited the map, however i do know that some maps such as Muttrah City are named after the real world place they are modelled on.

All in all dont read into the map names too much! just play PR :P

Hope this helps, Chief.
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For starters, the Qinling is named the "Battle for Qinling", not the "Battle of Qinling", as "the battle of" signifies the battle has been fought, where as "the battle for" signifies the battle is about to begin, or is in progress, much like in Churchill speech just before the Battle of British Began:
'Winston Churchill, 18 June 1940' wrote:The Battle of France is over...the Battle for Britain is about to begin
Qinling is named Qinling because Qinling is a mountain range in China, although the map wasn't based on Qinling the map was in fact just a test map I was making to see if we could get 4km terrain to work, I just liked the terrain so much back then I made it into a full map :p

Some maps are named after places, where others are just "Operation" names, even if they do not have "Operation" in there titles but even random names don't really need the "operation in them", such as on the D-Day landings, different sections of the coast line where given code names, such as "Gold Beach" just to pick one of them, which is often refereed to as just "Gold". Really you would have to ask the mapper why they picked there names but at the end of the day, its just a name and the names are unlikely to change now the maps have been released. Even Muttrah City technically isn't correct since "Muttrah" on its own, isn't really a City, its the port area of Muscat, which is Oman's capital city. Just when I was making Muttrah v1 (not the current v2) before I could find that much info on the net about Muttrah other than the odd picture, it seemed much like its own City when in fact its not. Even so I haven't changed the name as I've wanted to keep the maps original name :)
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Cheiftain_UK »

Slightly off topic, but muttrah v1, ahhh the memories! (loved the littlebird)



Moderator feel free to delete this post if deemed too off topic!!

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Re: Some map titles

Post by Tim270 »

My memories of the map will always be plagued of the pain and humiliation of getting raped over and over by the blackhawk. Cost us the prt battle :@

http://i.imgur.com/YyyBA.jpg
(Yes, that is a blackhawk gunner that got 200 kills. Also lol@ Mav having 0 team-points, what a boss.)


@the op, in the grand scheme of things, I really do not think it matters that much at all :p
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Acecombatzer0
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Acecombatzer0 »

Thanks for the reply Rhino, but isn't Wanda Shan, Yamalia, and Kashan Desert a real-life location as well? So would it make sense to add the "Battle for" context in the title?

Some maps are named after locations, while othes after the mission title. Like Operation Marlin AND Beirut are set in...well Beirut.

Iron Ridge has a unique name too altough it is obviously set (or based off of) Prypiat, Ukraine.
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Post by Rhino »

Basically what your asking is for a naming standard, which tbh I don't really see any advantages in doing it tbh. You could also have "Assault on Kashan Desert" as a map name if you really wanted to instead of "Battle for Kashan Desert", but there is nothing wrong with the maps names as they stand from what I can see...

As for Op Merlin and Beirut, I don't believe they are both set in Beirut, Beirut for starters is just a random map not based on anywhere which was named Beirut, where Op Merlin I think is based on another City, thou not sure will have to investigate.
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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:As for Op Merlin and Beirut, I don't believe they are both set in Beirut, Beirut for starters is just a random map not based on anywhere which was named Beirut, where Op Merlin I think is based on another City, thou not sure will have to investigate.
Operation Marlin is in Beirut. To be more specific it is in Khodr, but if you have Google Earth just simply go to Beirut, Lebanon, on the North side of the harbor you will immediatley recognize a landscape that Marlin was based after.
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Vege »

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There are Iron Eagle, Silent Eagle, Iron Ridge
I think some of the map names are too similar and were confusing at start. We are missing Silent Iron?
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Ts4EVER »

Cheiftain_UK wrote: Battle of Stalingrad was part of Operation Barbarossa

Actually, the battle of Stalingrad was part of Operation Blue (Fall Blau), the joint German/Romanian/Hungarian/Croatian/Italian/Spanish offensive against the southern Soviet Union in 1942. Operation Barbarossa ended with the defeat of the axis at Moscow. Oh wait this isn't the Fh2 forum... ;)
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Re: Some map titles

Post by Acecombatzer0 »

Don't forget Eagle Ridge :)
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