*NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

[Xander[nl]]

Lol Sax.
Blufor main attack is being abused. It is intended to be used as a tactic if the opfor come up against an organised blufor. It would help to disrupt the blufor as they need to defend their main. As it is in reality.
Sadly this is being abused by our trolling friend Tarra. He dosent break the rules but every round he can be found with a .50cal techy camping the main base. Along with some others.

I couldn't agree more that this rule is outdated on most maps. Raping the helipads with a techie is done every round and there is almost nothing Blufor can do against this. Techie pulls up, fires a burst, and runs off. There is no defense against this and Blufor loses vital equipment. Not to mention it's always very lame for the pilot.

On maps like Lashkar Valley, the Huey is vital for setting up FOBs as the trucks rarely get through. When the Talibs keep baseraping it, it severely cripples Blufor logistics and makes the game less fun.

It's really an outdated rule that we would love to see removed or adjusted.

[Orford]

I'll forward you remarks to our admin team. See what we can get sorted. Main rape is main priority. Unknown cache although good, has had its day. Still liked by many though so it may stay. I'll update this thread later.

[saXoni]

All right, cool.

[Tit4Tat]

i disagree...attacking blufor main should be kept, dont forget its not a AAS rule its only INS rule...which is 100% fair in my eyes.
I play on NwA servers and heli's being attacked at main on a frequent level as people stated here is not true...it happens but not THAT often.
Blufor has MANY ways of dealing with this "attack main" threat....one example..if u pilots get mad for losing ur chopper to a 50cal INSIDE ur main (but will still lose it as soon as u leave main) than get a 1 more bod and tell him to sit in main and spend the whole round either killing ins(who attack main) or thinking how he got manipulated into sitting inside main doing absolutly nothing.

If a 50cal or AA can ground CAS/Transport than its a good tactic and gives the INS that little bit more time fight off Blufor's arsenal of weapon choices.

AAS maps is a different ball game...both side's have similar equipment..and camping one's main with AAV is a noobish style of gameplay

my opinion on this...

Smurf_1st

[Xander[nl]]

There is virtually nothing Blufor can do against techie rape. Killing a chopper only takes five seconds and Blufor must accidentally have an APC (that happens to be looking in the right direction) in main to kill this; nothing else is effective enough.

Problem is that the severeness of main base rape is very dependent on the map. On maps like Kokan, the choppers are well protected and can only be shot once they've taken off; at which point they can easily take evasive action. However, one some maps (Lashkar Valley; Ramiel etc) the INS can see the helipad without difficulty and killing the idle choppers is a much used (and lame) tactic.

Both team's vehicles must be given a fair operating chance IMO.

[Smiddey723]

i disagree...attacking blufor main should be kept, dont forget its not a AAS rule its only INS rule...which is 100% fair in my eyes.

How is it 100% fair if the helicopter have to always go back to a specific location to repair/rearm and for a jeep to just sit there and camp that place?

[ukVandal]

Its the pricks that feel they need to justify thier meaningless exsitence by raping helis on the pad that are the real problem.

[Dev1200]

Its the pricks that feel they need to justify thier meaningless exsitence by raping helis on the pad that are the real problem.

So why is it allowed as a rule, only for insurgents?

Yes, insurgents could attack a base in real life, but maps and player count is far to small to have this as an accepted tactic.


What's the difference between Insurgents attacking a main and a conventional faction attacking a main?

One has more scopes? :\

[Tit4Tat]

So why is it allowed as a rule, only for insurgents?

Yes, insurgents could attack a base in real life, but maps and player count is far to small to have this as an accepted tactic.


What's the difference between Insurgents attacking a main and a conventional faction attacking a main?

One has more scopes? :\

a 50cal attacking blufors main from distance is alot different than Tank or BMP dont u think...?


sanders i agree with what u said, it all depends on maps. Ok Lashkar has 1 disadvantge the high mountains to the north of main...but i cant help think that the designer of that map knew what he wanted when he put the main there...its was down to there servers to enforce whatever rule the wanted.

Ramiel has a rectangular dod...its starts from H2 (i think) and ends east of main. But the width is only 3-4 grids down, so if u bring ur 50cal techie near the bridge SE of main and start shooting CAS when they takeoff and u destroy it, than theres nobody to blame than ur own team...it only takes 1-2 inf to check/disable that threat and CAS will be safe to takeoff....lol shit... thinking about this makes me think that this tactic ^^ is the most dangerous threat to CAS they will face..


p.s i never use this tactic ive been on the recieving end of it and i dont really like INS i prefer AAS....but reading some peoples comments makes me think all there doing is nit picking for whatever reasons plus certain people that posted comments dont even play on NwA servers ( i might be wrong just havent seen there tags)

[Mikemonster]

It's an exploit brought on by the unrealistic map sizes. No other definition required.

In reality i'm certain that when a supply helo is due to resupply a [true] FOB a huge ground clearing operation takes place by friendly troops and armour (at risk of ambush and attack) to clear a landing zone.

You could actually simulate this in a game-mode, but it's impossible in the current Ins maps.

In N.I. the provys attacked helis landing on bases, but that was a different kettle of fish altogether.

[saXoni]

So you're saying that the maps are too small, and there are too few players in order to allow baserape, right?

[Vincento94]

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[Tarranauha200]

Great games on kashan today. Lol our BMP glitched and flew 100m into the air. Btw 1/3 of the server pop. left after iron ridge, seems like unpopular map.

[Mikemonster]

I think they 'deserted'.

Ahahahahaha

# skips merrily away #

[maarit]

map was qwai river.
i was on chinese.
some admin just kicked me out because i was not enough mature and not teamwork squadleader.
there was some guy saying to me that just go to the flag...you have been on this fob maybe hour.
but in that hour...we were fighting againts infantry in chinese operations base when enemy was capping the temple
we used mumble to get our tank there to help us.
then we called apc to get just little bit near of the river that we can manage to cross river.
but...our apc just get hit from tow from otherside of the river.
i just cant take my squad and run to the other side.

and then we decided to go in that village where we could try to go over river...but enemy capped temple to neutral.
there was 2 squad at near of temple...so we decided to fall back to the fob and then go operations base...but i was kicked from the server because i was not enough mature.
i used mumble as a squadleader,i tryed to talk to other squads with mumble.i tryed to go places where my squadmembers dont get killed instantly.
and it was maybe my fifth time when iwas leading a squad and some admin made it catastophe.
and my and his conversation was maybe 10 seconds...then i was kicked.
just great.

i think that if some squad has been in one place long time,you could come and ask what is our situtiation.
not to come yell and curse and then kick people out.
and also i was getting some message when i tryed to save my squad from dying:
"stop doing that"
several times.
STOP DOING WHAT?use mumble please.
im just for now so angry cos some dude just ruined fun round for me...so im gonna ban myself from your server forever.
bye.

[LieutenantNessie]

map was qwai river.
i was on chinese.
some admin just kicked me out because i was not enough mature and not teamwork squadleader.
there was some guy saying to me that just go to the flag...you have been on this fob maybe hour.
but in that hour...we were fighting againts infantry in chinese operations base when enemy was capping the temple
we used mumble to get our tank there to help us.
then we called apc to get just little bit near of the river that we can manage to cross river.
but...our apc just get hit from tow from otherside of the river.
i just cant take my squad and run to the other side.

and then we decided to go in that village where we could try to go over river...but enemy capped temple to neutral.
there was 2 squad at near of temple...so we decided to fall back to the fob and then go operations base...but i was kicked from the server because i was not enough mature.
i used mumble as a squadleader,i tryed to talk to other squads with mumble.i tryed to go places where my squadmembers dont get killed instantly.
and it was maybe my fifth time when iwas leading a squad and some admin made it catastophe.

i think that if some squad has been in one place long time,you could come and ask what is our situtiation.
not to come yell and curse and then kick people out.
and also i was getting some message when i tryed to save my squad from dying:
"stop doing that"
several times.
STOP DOING WHAT?use mumble please.

Aye, got bad experiences from NwA aswell.

On topic: I don't see why one would kick him for being "unmature" as he's been very mature everytime I've played with him

[K4on]

Aye, got bad experiences from NwA aswell.

do you have any examples? just saying "i have bad experience" doesn't help much. if you want them to get better, post constructive feedback instead just saying they are bad.

just my cents as a serveradmin

[Orford]

Aye, got bad experiences from NwA aswell.

On topic: I don't see why one would kick him for being "unmature" as he's been very mature everytime I've played with him

Don't worry K4on, this guy is all over the PR forum saying bad stuff about our server. I'm not sure where its from as we haven't had a ban appeal from him. I guess he gets off on *NwA* bashing, so just leave him to knock one out all over his posts and we'll ignor him I don't know why he bothers. It just makes him look childish and petty all the negative stuff he says every time some one mentions *NwA* on this forum.

As for the complaint have you got the name of the admin that kicked you. I'll have a word and get his side of the story, then take it from there. Also can you post your in game name please.

Thanks for taking the time to post, I'm sure we will get this sorted for you.

[LieutenantNessie]

do you have any examples? just saying "i have bad experience" doesn't help much. if you want them to get better, post constructive feedback instead just saying they are bad.

just my cents as a serveradmin

I think it's against the forum rules to start discussing em here?

As what comes for you, Orford: No I do not have a ban appeal, as I have not been banned. I was just amazed by the level of garbage on your servers as it is pretty highly rated (highly overrated IMO)

Even made a post on your forums about the bad quality, and most of the admins were acting generally agressive for giving negative feedback.

If you're willing to hear the negatives I've received: No team-wide teamwork, good if the squad itself is organized (except for NwA member squad where they kick you for a another NwA member), admins don't give a fuck if theres a griefer on their opposing side, generally low-quality of gameplay.

[H.sta]

In regards to the "stop doing that!" message, it comes up when you are warned, if you see it look to the top of the screen to see the warning message