On the other hand RO2's suppression includes a "shakey" aim, which would enhance PR's gameplay greatly by actually making you unable to return fire while suppressed. Right now you can't see as much but shoot perfectly straight, hence the suppression doesn't always work as intended. Sadly that kind of feature is hardcoded and not doable with BF2.Pvt.LHeureux wrote:Red Orchestra uses black and white and some blurr on the sides of the screen. It's efficient but totally not as much as the PR's one.
Also in RO2 the bullets are way more lethal and go through objects and surfaces, so you really have to hit the deck. You can't heal yourself later with a medic too (classic that is, the only good mode)[R-DEV]Thermis wrote:I believe RO2 has one of the best suppression features of a first person shooter ever.
When you're being shot at you really do get tunnel vision to an extent of the only thing you really care about is the fact that someone is shooting at you and you would really like it if they stopped. The effect of that being two fold, on one hand you are pumped full of adrenaline and pvt. joe for the most part is going to be shaking to much to remember all the fundamental principles of marksmanship in order to hit a guy, so that's why you have everyone shoot back and achieve results through volume of fire. And if you're not full of adrenaline you are scared shitless and then you just as useless when it comes to trying to actually hit your target.
We use the blurry screen to simulate to the best of our ability that mindset. If you have a better way to make that effect happen then we'd be happy to hear it. But we are limited within the BF2 engine and we do the best we can with what we got.
1) No use, you are already blind as your are, no need making the screen blackJoker86 wrote:I also agree that the supression effect should become stronger.
I would say you divie the surpression into different stages:
1.: Blurry view
2.: High pulse sound, reduced accuracy
3.: Tunnel vision, either by really "beding" the "lens" to get that weird camera effect with tunnel vision, or by simply making the edges of the screen go black
4.: Unable to shoot, weapon is put down like while sprinting
5.: Character drops to the ground (= goes prone)
1) I didn't write to make the screen black. Point 1 was actually just repeating the current surpression effects, for the sake of completeness.Brainlaag wrote:1) No use, you are already blind as your are, no need making the screen black
2) Not possible because hardcoded.
4) AFAIK hardcoded, not sure tho.
5) Pretty sure hardcoded as I've seen DEV answers regarding the change of stance not being changeable expect through the player itself.
Thats the point, you don't have to blind people any further, hell I've shot people with my screen pitch black (enemy kit) simply because your aim doesn't move an inch, no matter if suppressed or not. If you manage to lay down sight on the enemy, he can throw all the lead he has at you and unless he kills you, you will land a direct hit.Joker86 wrote:1) I didn't write to make the screen black. Point 1 was actually just repeating the current surpression effects, for the sake of completeness.
Well, for the rest the main answer seems to be "hardcoded", which leaves only 2 options:
1.: Cursing about the limited engine
2.: Further increasing the optical and accustical penalties while being surpressed.
In your "perfect situation" maybe. That's not how it always goes.Hunt3r wrote:It's simple. If you're getting shot at, you're doing it wrong. Close and flank, if it's a fair duel then you've already lost.
