[0.973] M16A2 incorrect firemode

[Stealthgato]

Wanted to post this for a while but kept forgetting.

Description:
The Hamas M16A2 is using single and full auto firemodes, when the M16A2 is only single and burst.

Steps to Reproduce:
Obtain Hamas kit with M16A2 (primary rifleman AT and AP).

Tested On:
Asad Khal AAS/Skirmish, local, PRTA, NEW, v0.966, v0.973;
Gaza Beach AAS/INS, local, PRTA, NEW, v0.966, v0.973.

[pr0Life]

Aren't M16's in the Israel region actually M16A1's?

[SShadowFox]

Yes it's the M16A2 being used by the Hamas L-AT and Rifleman AP, due to the PR archives.

[PGT_Hubbard]

Because the particular M16A2 the Hamas use has an A1 lower and A2 upper I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Souls Of Mischief]

^I always thought it was the case with the M16A2.

[SShadowFox]

The case is that it's not really a bug so it should be posted on the Feedback Section.

[RUSSIAN147]

Then it is actually an A3:
"The M16A3 was a fully automatic variant of the M16A2 adopted in small numbers around the time of the introduction of the M16A2, primarily by the U.S. Navy for use by SEAL, Seabee, and Security units. It features the M16A1 trigger group providing "safe", "semi-automatic", and "fully automatic" modes."

M16 rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Rudd]

I'm only guessing, but I think there's a reason the Hamas AR15 variants have got unique names, just like the Israeli variants having their own names.

[k30dxedle]

I'm pretty sure the Hamas "M16A2" is just an M16A1 fitted with A2 handguards, which would make full-auto legitimate.

[ComradeHX]

Most likely; it is just A1 refitted with newer handguards.

If it says A2; just ignore it. Does not matter too much even if it is not changed in v1.0. since you can also turn M16A1 into Mk18 just by putting on newer upper assembly and stock, iirc.

Real problem is solid stock AK-74 texture(it has folding stock's latches on it).

[samogon100500]

Im a bit curios,why this incorrection found now.I found it since they was added.

Real problem is solid stock AK-74 texture(it has folding stock's latches on it).

AK-74 got solid buttstock.
AKS-74(Not ingame),AKS-74U and AK-74M got folding buttstock.
But they modelled as solid one.This is impossible to fix without 3d model changes.

[ComradeHX]

AK-74 got solid buttstock.
AKS-74(Not ingame),AKS-74U and AK-74M got folding buttstock.
But they modelled as solid one.This is impossible to fix without 3d model changes.

I know exactly what they are supposed to be.
I was referring to INS AK-74.

I posted this: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f26-pr ... error.html

In-game, only real fix is just change of texture(model is not very detailed); also need to add rivets texture for rear trunnion.

[RUSSIAN147]

I'm pretty sure the Hamas "M16A2" is just an M16A1 fitted with A2 handguards, which would make full-auto legitimate.

Yeah thats true as well.

[J.F.Leusch69]

Its a M16A1 with A2 handguard.

Its now up to you to come up with a better designation!

[Smiddey723]

Real problem is solid stock AK-74 texture(it has folding stock's latches on it).

Real problem that

[ComradeHX]

Real problem that

Yep, real problem.

Because texture is s**t like that which is much bigger problem(quality of PR related) instead of just some insignificant M16 name.

M16A2, btw, is very possibly correct; because, towards middle/end of Cold War, US army ran out of rightside handguard for M16A1, so armorers were allowed to replace with M16A2 handguards, they got A2 look just by swapping handguard and flashhider. You either call it M16A1 due to receiver or A2 due to looks. Generally it is called M16A2 due to looks because if you just care about receiver then some CQB-R are made from A1 receivers so they would be called M16A1 instead.

Since U.S. Army ran out of A1 handguard; why would Isreali have those when they could have A2 handguards?

[RUSSIAN147]

Yep, real problem.

Because texture is s**t like that which is much bigger problem(quality of PR related) instead of just some insignificant M16 name.

M16A2, btw, is very possibly correct; because, towards middle/end of Cold War, US army ran out of rightside handguard for M16A1, so armorers were allowed to replace with M16A2 handguards, they got A2 look just by swapping handguard and flashhider. You either call it M16A1 due to receiver or A2 due to looks. Generally it is called M16A2 due to looks because if you just care about receiver then some CQB-R are made from A1 receivers so they would be called M16A1 instead.

Since U.S. Army ran out of A1 handguard; why would Isreali have those when they could have A2 handguards?

Again another good point. Like you said just take a look at the IDF's "Menosar", "Mekotzar" and "Mekotzrar" M16A1's.