Helicopters

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-06-19 17:09

id love to see the '53 if you guys make it please make it the one that can land on water i loved doin that

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-06-19 18:18

The CH-46 lands on water, and can stay a float for up to 2 hours. I don't think the H-53 series is capable of water landings.

The CH-46 was the helo in BF:V by the way, it's been serving that long.

Edit*
Well... so has the H-53 so never mind.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-06-19 19:20

the carrier is too small, im suprised they got the right carrier in there, the actual marine carrier as opposed to the super carriers that are more famous. they even put the anti air installations in the right place, except that there are two phlanx close-in weapons systems flanking the mk29 sea sparrow SAM.

back to how smal it is... the spots hanging over the sides of the carrier, actually aircraft elevators, can fit both a CH-46E and CH-53E helicopters on a single lift, in the game there is just room for a single chopper.

Just as an idea of how big it really is and how much it can really hold, compare that to the game

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-06-20 15:09

Open model...

scale up 250 %....

Lol.

The LHD in BF2 looks like a miniature model...lol

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-06-20 15:52

Ugly Duck wrote:The CH-46 lands on water, and can stay a float for up to 2 hours. I don't think the H-53 series is capable of water landings.

The CH-46 was the helo in BF:V by the way, it's been serving that long.

Edit*
Well... so has the H-53 so never mind.

So have the H-47 Chinook, H-6, UH-1 and AH-1. All have been improved over time, though, but most fixed wing aircraft from that era are in museums and boneyards.

The CH-46 was in BF:V? I only played it enough to see the ACH-47 "Guns-a-Go-Go."

As for water landings, the CH-53D/E (but not the Pave Low variants) and CH-46 can, but I think it requires extra prep on the aircraft, as it's for emergencies only and not a common practice. The older H-3 Sea King / Jolly Green Giant / Pelican could do it and had a fuselage designed to do so.

The Super Frelon / Z-8 is also able to land on water in the CSAR role.

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-06-20 17:00

Bah.. eddie you know too much. Sorry for the misinformation, but wow... didn't know the US was so concerned with water landings.

As for BF:V, eddie is probably right(again[as usual]). I just assumed since it had been in service starting in BF:V it would make sense for that to be it.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-06-20 17:04

Ugly Duck wrote:Bah.. eddie you know too much. Sorry for the misinformation, but wow... didn't know the US was so concerned with water landings.

I don't think we have ever employed or considered a true "amphibious" helo since the H-3 series. The boat hull fuselage used to be a signature of Sikorsky products like the H-3.

The French Super Frelon (Chinese produced as Z-

was developed in cooperation with Sikorsky, so it has the boat hull fuselage, too.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-06-20 19:15

id love to see a heavy lift helo that could land on water and transport small vehicles like RHIB or DPV or something id prefer the '53 but id settle for a 46

i think DCX had an awsome idea when they made the C-130 capable of transporting 110's it was one of my favorite things about the .8 build of DCX and something i wish DC had thought up a while ago

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-06-21 09:11

all this helo tecnical talk... beats me. just make it realistic that's all i care.

keef_haggerd · Post by **keef_haggerd** » 2005-06-21 15:34

i would LOVE to see helos that can land on water and carry light vehicles in them, mmm imagine how much fun it would be to have you and your squad in a heli, go in for a land hop into your humvee or whatever and start capturing flags!

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-06-21 15:38

yeah that would be great.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-06-22 01:03

Beckwith wrote:id love to see a heavy lift helo that could land on water and transport small vehicles like RHIB or DPV or something id prefer the '53 but id settle for a 46

The Naval Special Warfare 10 or 11 meter RHIBs cannot be carried internally by the H-53 Stallion / Pave Low or H-47 Chinook helicopters. However, the Zodiac CRRC (Combat Rubber Reconnaissance Craft or Combat Rubber Raiding Craft) can be carried internally and deployed from the ramp with combat swimmers in a "low and slow" helocast. This photo is courtesy of an active duty Pave Low flight engineer

The H-53 is capable of internally transporting the Chenowth Light Strike Vehicle (USN Special Warfare calls it the DPV and Army and USMC call it the FAV), USMC Interim Fast Attack Vehicle (Mercedes-Benz MB290 GT "G-Wagon") and the Army Special Forces Toyota Tacoma / Hilux Non-Standard Commercial Vehicle (NSCV).

(Photo courtesy of Pavespawn)

And of course, the Chinook can internally transport the Land Rover 110 WMIK / Ranger Special Operations Vehicle.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-06-22 01:06

glad to see you did your homework and set us all straight, will PR be able to do that kind of stuff? -please god yes please god yes-

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-06-22 02:59

That's nifty...
and holy sh!t those are big helos. Just the tail of that '53 is bigger than the guy standing under it! Just the sheer size of these makes me want to be able to fly them.

Tom#13 · Post by **Tom#13** » 2005-06-22 11:56

chinooks in the game would be great