Hind and huey

dysin
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by dysin »

we had a round a few days ago, cas huey scored 3 on the hind twice on the havok. these were all above and behind. head to head there's not much chance. i like them both, but they don't necessarily fill the same role. i see the huey as much more of a surgical tool, where the hind is a bit more of a chainsaw in a china shop
Tarranauha200
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Tarranauha200 »

Building AA and retreating into its effective area with the huey is much better tactic than attacking the hind head-on.
Roque_THE_GAMER
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Roque_THE_GAMER »

Tarranauha200 wrote:Building AA and retreating into its effective area with the huey is much better tactic than attacking the hind head-on.
Hind cannot escape, he will take 2 hits after turn.
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Jacksonez__ »

I remember one CAS Huey round when we went hunting Hind. We had full crew in CAS Huey (Minigun, spotter, 50cal) and we pounded that Hind with Hydras, minigun and mainly 50 cal - still it survived back to Cargo ship. We died in Russian DOD, lol.
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Re: Hind and huey

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I hit a Mi-24 last night on Black Gold with a 120mmAP round and a bucket load of 50cal, and he only just started going down. That was right after he flew at our formation of 3 Tanks and managed to destroy one with rocket pods alone...

A friend and I also managed to get a combined 38:4 KD in the Mi-24 on the same map, despite tones of auto-cannons, 120mm cannons, enemy CAS chopper, Jets, Tunguskas, AA, AAA. I got the majority of kills as the gunner, with its poor zoom and 50cal chain gun. We avoided high value assets like Tanks and AAVs.
A bit of intelligent flying with a spotter and you can slay bodies.

If the scanario is even, the Hind should come out on top because of the 50cal chaingun an sheer number of rockets. If a Huey is smart and uses its speed/manoeuvrability to pick its fights, it should win. I have seen a hind take about 3 rockets before it goes down though...
Although as they often appear in pairs with AH-1z Cobras, I'd say the UH-1 Huey is a better compliment to the AH-1z Cobra than the Mi-24 Hind is to the Mi-28 Havoc. Just like IRL.


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Roque_THE_GAMER
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Roque_THE_GAMER »

what i want to bring here is the hind is to slow than in real life he can go 335 km and the Mi-8 only go 260 km in game mi-8 is faster than hind i will try to make a video proving this.
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Spook »

matty1053 wrote:i find the hind constantly decimating the CAS Heuy every round on Saaremma.

Never, have I seen the Hind be killed by Huey.


(I only see the HIND being killed by Cobra, or ground assets., or of course players crashing it)

There you go: Spook's Random Frags - YouTube


I saw the Huey pwning the enemy hinds and havocs alot of times. Just as we did in that video :)

Huey can take alot of damage and is really fast. If enemy CAS attacks you, you can outrun them easily and even heavily damaged, reach the carrier. You just need to try to sneak up on them and they get owned.
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Roque_THE_GAMER »

Spook wrote:There you go: Spook's Random Frags - YouTube


I saw the Huey pwning the enemy hinds and havocs alot of times. Just as we did in that video :)

Huey can take alot of damage and is really fast. If enemy CAS attacks you, you can outrun them easily and even heavily damaged, reach the carrier. You just need to try to sneak up on them and they get owned.
nice one in the Havoc
that's the problem whit hind, he is to slow even to run, the minigun should not make damage on hind, a documentary i watch say he cans resist a .50 shoots.

also see this:
Project Reality 1.0: CAS Huey vs Mi-24 Hind + Hat to the face - YouTube
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Inspektura43 »

I dont know if your testers try shooting each other with choppers before you releasing them but lol if they dont, they probably should...
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Roque_THE_GAMER
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Roque_THE_GAMER »

MI-24 hind vs Mi-8 speed test - YouTube

This show how much hind is slower than Mi-8 in game

in real life Mi-8 have 250km max speed and Hind have 335km max so hind is 34% faster in real life

sorry for the poor edit, camtasia ctd all the time wen i edit.
Prevtzer
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Prevtzer »

The Hind should be much faster, IRL it's much faster than the Huey or the Apache. That's not reflected in-game.

@Mongol That was probably just the hit detection doing it's magic on you, Hind always goes down with 1 tank shell. It's so slow and big it makes for a great target.
Imdruid
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Imdruid »

I honestly think that CAS huey needs a few more hydras with how much damage they don't do now. Just my opinion though. I just think either hydras need to be reworked a little bit.
Before you ask, been playing since 2006 seen a lot of change, some good, most bad. :)
Roque_THE_GAMER
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by Roque_THE_GAMER »

i will try to make a full Hind feed back this week with videos of my tests
mangeface
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Re: Hind and huey

Post by mangeface »

Imdruid wrote:I honestly think that CAS huey needs a few more hydras with how much damage they don't do now. Just my opinion though. I just think either hydras need to be reworked a little bit.
That's not gonna happen. You're lucky they have 14. All the years I worked hand in hand with them I never saw one armed with more than 7.

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