Jets in 1.4

[Mats391]

Projectiles cannot collide with projectiles.

[fenriz9000]

If you change flare to projectile, you can kill someone by it.

[Danesh_italiano]

New jet physics are cool when it works... u.u

[rPoXoTauJIo]

Working as intended.

[PBAsydney]

Going outside the flight envelope resulting in flat spin? Seems legit.

Except the F18 has fly-by-wire controls so the on-board computer should prevent that!

groho pls.

[Danesh_italiano]

SO, jet physics + AA irrevertible, right?
Tired of dying on first lock, no skill required....

[Heavy Death]

Git gud and doint fly into AA zones then.

[transpilot123]

SO, jet physics + AA irrevertible, right?
Tired of dying on first lock, no skill required....

Was never shot by ground aa so far. Sounds like a mater of git gud.

[Danesh_italiano]

Git gud and doint fly into AA zones then.

What about enemy jet? dur

Was never shot by ground aa so far. Sounds like a mater of git gud.

Never saw you flying jets. Probably you only flys helis? For helis, the flare vs aa is not too bad.

#Make_PR_Great_Again

[transpilot123]

Never saw you flying jets. Probably you only flys helis? For helis, the flare vs aa is not too bad.

#Make_PR_Great_Again

Helis are fine too.
I fly jets a lot and get high KD so thats not the issue... Havent noticed you getting high KD in CAS though.

[solidfire93]

high K/D are for pussies just kidding, but right now there is no skill involved in Jet dogfight, Helis/Attack helis are fine but they are slow :/

[DogACTUAL]

Everytime someone says 'just stay away from AA', they immediately out themselves of not having any idea how CAS works in this game.

Yet they think they need to lecture CAS players. Maybe they ought to actually try CAS and make sure to record it and show us how it went.

[transpilot123]

Everytime someone says 'just stay away from AA', they immediately out themselves of not having any idea how CAS works in this game.

Yet they think they need to lecture CAS players. Maybe they ought to actually try CAS and make sure to record it and show us how it went.

So INF should report that APCs/Tanks are doing too much damage when they cross open fields and get killed so assets get nerfed to the level of direct HE hit?

As the best CAS and trans pilot at the moment I dont go for lazes near marked AAs, its that simple.

[CAS_ual_TY]

Helis are fine too.
I fly jets a lot and get high KD so thats not the issue... Havent noticed you getting high KD in CAS though.

[Hunter291]

So INF should report that APCs/Tanks are doing too much damage when they cross open fields and get killed so assets get nerfed to the level of direct HE hit?

As the best CAS and trans pilot at the moment I dont go for lazes near marked AAs, its that simple.

Wow like aa cant lock over 1000 meters. o wait It can. Stop making bullshit lies. Yes we try to avoid aa, or bomb aa but what are we spose to do when there is no mark of aa or any intel and theres a laze on a tank about to kill a full squad? not go for it? You can see in many videos of aa that it is broken. Now in dogfights its whoever sees who first because the only thing you need to do is wait till lock and right click. Also didn't know that trans helicopters go for lazes must be from the best trans pilot.

[solidfire93]

As the best CAS and trans pilot at the moment I dont go for lazes near marked AAs, its that simple.

you really have no idea what you're talking about, do you ?

[Deadmanfoot]

As the best CAS and trans pilot at the moment I dont go for lazes near marked AAs, its that simple.

whAT dID yOU sAy?!??? bESt cAs pIeeeloooot??

[CAS_ual_TY]

Where the fuck is
PRIIIIIIICEEEEEELIIIIIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Frontliner]

I take it all of you have yet to assemble a fairer, less buggy missile logic?

This absurd whining about gameplay elements we have little control over is beyond tiring, nobody on the team owes you to make your favourite plaything the most bestest around. And while I don't play CAS, I too see the problems that have arised with the new missile code, I'm not oblivious to it at all. WHICH IS WHY I personally do my best to ensure my CASers only go for targets that are clear to engage, whereas for you dying to a thing entirely designed to kill you appears to be completely unfathomable, it's broken, it needs to be fixed. What needs fixing first of all is your aggressiveness. If you engage a target you have limited information about, that's called "taking a risk". And if you die, that means you suffered for your risky behaviour. In turn nobody else is to blame but yourselves.

Similarly, you all KNOW that A2A combat is 50:50 nowadays, yet you still complain when you receive the short end of the stick. When you flip a coin, you have the same odds, so what exactly are you complaining about? Your opponent is as much of a disadvantage as you are, not counting jet type advantages.

Yeah, I know it sucks to wait 20 minutes to be productive only for it to be over in 2 minutes. But we also have other playstyles to consider. 1.2 was one of the worst experiences gameplay wise for almost every combat element due to CAS being almost completely immune to AA, and we simply will not go back to you guys pressing one button in order to be safe just so that you can continue to fly CAS missions against dedicated AA pieces, ruining the fun for about half of the server. That's not a solution.

We are attempting to find a mid-ground solution between 1.2's retardation and the current state of things but I'm not the one calling the shots on that one - and we all have different points of view on how best to address this, as per usual.

[Deadmanfoot]

I just feel like CAS needs atleast a 50%50 chance of surviving if risk taking means death 90% of the time then just remove countermeasures on a whole and leave CAS irrelevant.