A10, Al Basrah, and hacking

Sandy_Beret · Post by **Sandy_Beret** » 2007-02-19 04:34

Woody wrote:Could it be possible they somehow got into the BF2 files and made it so they can see an extended range? Like you can go in and change your visiblity meter. Could they have somehow made it so it like 2x"s the view?

the weblink of the unnameable place that I had to remove from a previous post in this thread - it describes all the hacks including customisable view distance setting greater than 100%

Smitty4212 · Post by **Smitty4212** » 2007-02-19 06:04

danthemanbuddy wrote:THe screenies do not impress me since, the commander spotted you, and the other times you were close to the front line.

need other proof

Like I said in my original post, those screenshots were taken AFTERWARDS (except for the one that has A10 rounds flying in my face) merely to show where I was being killed from. When I was killed at suburbs, we had control of all the CPs up to facility, I believe. I would've taken screens while I was being strafed, but I never KNEW I was going to be.

And -=OTB=-Saint_Patrick is the second person I've accused of hacking in BF2, Vanilla or PRMM. Two people in well over two years. Both in the past week, on the same server, doing the same thing.

As for what fishw0rk was talking about, I was also on that server at that time. His name was Immortal_Technique. Two people joined the server with that name, one spelled slightly different, but he was kicked for TKing. Immortal_Technique was flying his A10 doing exactly what Saint_Patrick was doing, getting kills in the most random spots consistently.

My favorite part of this whole situation is that the second the insurgents start to bring it up, the USMC come to the defense of the pilot regardless of the claims the insurgents make. Now, I've seen 95-5 scores (colkilgorecav had one earlier today) plenty, and that's completely reasonable over the course of a whole map, with CPs actively being taken and retaken by the insurgents giving an A10 constant targets, but Saint_Patrick amassed over 40 kills in under five minutes. That's eight kills a minute, not counting for rearming and repairing at the airport.

That was my problem with Maistros that time. I -GUARANTEE- you that if he was an insurgent, Saint_Patrick would've been kicked and banned in minutes. As it was, he was USMC, and was benefiting greatly from the bs going on. And yes he did warn me, but I was not about to stop complaining when he was clearly not doing anything about it. I'm sorry but getting killed in a CP halfway across the map from the nearest active combat zone, while hiding under a roof, by an A10 with one perfect strafing run? Ridiculous. As far as I know, commanders don't watch suburbs while the fight is taking place in facility.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-02-19 06:25

Okay I have an Idea......

If you ever see anyone doing anything that is supicious like this....Even a little....Post their name here. If their name shows up multiple times than its a good cause to send out there name to Server Admins to look out for them.

For instance

Name
Server seen on
Score
Extra notes (was in an A10, Shot me from the other side of the map multiple times, shot me in a building from a helicopter 350 meters up, ect)

Desertfox · Post by **Desertfox** » 2007-02-19 06:34

Woody wrote:Okay I have an Idea......

If you ever see anyone doing anything that is supicious like this....Even a little....Post their name here. If their name shows up multiple times than its a good cause to send out there name to Server Admins to look out for them.

For instance

Name
Server seen on
Score
Extra notes (was in an A10, Shot me from the other side of the map multiple times, shot me in a building from a helicopter 350 meters up, ect)

Score.....

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-02-19 06:48

Like how outragously high their score was after cheating......

BigPipe · Post by **BigPipe** » 2007-02-19 07:43

oddANGRYshot wrote:Maybe an explaination by Maistros is deserved, and if Smitty is correct... an apology. Speaking for myself, I dont cry "Hacker" at the drop of a hat. To be kicked for trying to keep the integrity of PR at its pinnicle only to be punished deserves something.

come to think of it, this happened a lot on the devfile.com server and this time maistros was flying the a10. when people started complaining, he would come up with all sort of excuses, that commander was spotting everybody etc. another usmc player told me there is no commander. he later told everyone who asked more questions would be banned. very fishy

come to think of it, he is an admin of that server, so if he is hacking, which i suspect is yes, no one can do shit. looking at the text on the screen shots, he is in cahoots with the other hacker -saint patrick

i guess next time i log on, he will ban me, but to hell, he has a history of hacking anyway

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-02-19 07:52

LOL, you just accused one of the most valued assets to the PR community of hacking Bagpipe, you're in for a world of hurt mate.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-02-19 08:02

Okay If anyone has any information on how the bloody hell they're doing this come forward NOW before this gets real ugly. Lets not start pointing fingers, but Maistros, if you know please tell us so we can get it fixed and this won't happen any longer.

Smitty4212 · Post by **Smitty4212** » 2007-02-19 08:09

As far as I know or care, Maistros doesn't hack. That round he wasn't doing anything particularly suspicious, but that's neither here nor there.

The only two people I've seen hack, definitively in my eyes, are Immortal_Technique, and -=OTB=-Saint_Patrick. Saint_Patrick did it twice while I was playing, and both times the whole insurgent team was flipping out saying he was hacking and nothing was done.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-02-19 08:11

Well judging by the complaints it seems that this little community of hackers is expanding, making everyone else pissed off.

Fenix16 · Post by **Fenix16** » 2007-02-19 08:24

WNxJaymz wrote:LOL, you just accused one of the most valued assets to the PR community of hacking Bagpipe, you're in for a world of hurt mate.

I really wouldnt be suprised if an admin did somthing like that. Ive had admin on a few servers and I know from experiance that some admins, after a hard day at work, like nothing more than to pick fights with users and screw around. Plus (im not trying to point fingers), but Ive seen Maistros have his fair share of TK's in one round. Once again Maistros im sorry if there was somthing going on that I didnt know about as I wasnt on the US side, im just saying that I wouldnt be THAT suprised if some of the above accusations were true. Plus the fact that your appear to be defending a known hacker in BigPipes screen shots does raise suspicion.

ArmedDrunk&Angry · Post by **ArmedDrunk&Angry** » 2007-02-19 09:28

most valued assets
it's that phrase combined with how often his name comes up in these kinds of threads that makes you go ............ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-02-19 09:39

This thread has turned into a witch hunt, be careful who you name in this thread.
As without proof IT will come back to bit you in the arse. I myself have been flamed a while back for naming players with outproof along with other PR members.

if you suspect someone contact the server via admin pm or email admin for PB screenshots.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-02-19 09:42

Tis true, I remember how I laughed at him

Desertfox · Post by **Desertfox** » 2007-02-19 09:44

Since devfile seems to be brought up again! lol. I just want to remind people that PB SS's will be up soon and will be automatically taking screenshots! I will not tolerate hackers/glitchers!

DaedalusAI1 · Post by **DaedalusAI1** » 2007-02-19 09:48

Comming from Counter Strike Source, I am pretty use to playing with and against hackers. After a while I just got used to it. Me personnally I don't see how having an unfair advantage that is outside the scope of the game makes it fun.

I'm sure there are plenty of hackers that play this mod. People will do what they can to win. As long as the hackers aren't on my team then i'm happy. Hackers still die on these games and as long as they keep it modest I'll deal with it. I know i've killed people on css that use aim bots and wall hacks, so hackers can die too. Haven't heard of an invincibilty one yet. There are several variations of aim bots so it is possible to use one with out it being obvious. Like the ones that set the aim cone, as long as you have it in that degree range, it will aim on what part you want it to. Also recoil ones. There are times I think I notice that but can't prove it when i'm getting shot through a dust storm

.

Plus, it is fun to know that you killed a hacker. It's especially funny that some of the hackers even suck using hacks

. I just wish that it would show you the name of the person you killed if they were a hacker so everyone could laugh.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-02-19 11:13

Lets just drop this tell someone has more proof, Like the exact way they're doing it. Just keep an eye out and ask someone how they do it if you do see something like that, and maybe, just maybe, they might tell yah.

Maistros · Post by **Maistros** » 2007-02-19 12:21

BigPipe wrote:come to think of it, this happened a lot on the devfile.com server and this time maistros was flying the a10. when people started complaining, he would come up with all sort of excuses, that commander was spotting everybody etc. another usmc player told me there is no commander. he later told everyone who asked more questions would be banned. very fishy

come to think of it, he is an admin of that server, so if he is hacking, which i suspect is yes, no one can do shit. looking at the text on the screen shots, he is in cahoots with the other hacker -saint patrick

i guess next time i log on, he will ban me, but to hell, he has a history of hacking anyway

Actually, BigPipe's little story is 1) made up and 2) out of context.

Those screenshots were taken while Smitty was complaining about the A-10s and when I was explaining that the commander had seen the guy under the bridge, we had confirmed he was still there, then relayed the message to the A-10 who was, at the time, not QTB. The QTB guy was on earlier and I had kicked him for the no-fog thing. This was something different. I wasn't even in the a-10 that game, and was in fact leading a squad from Industry to Palace then as well.

BigPipe is, for some reason or another, seemingly "out to get me" as he thinks I hack, and is willing to even email people about it... he claimed to "know me" and "knows me so well but I don't know who he is" kinda thing.. but can't even give my first name.

Nice try, bubba.

As for smitty, like I said.. that particular incident that people were getting in such an uproar over was after I had kicked QTB and someone else had taken over the A-10 position. We also had a commander, who I was speaking with over VOIP. I had asked you, and others, to calm down.. but it was too persistent after being warned so I kicked. It's not a band, and you can rejoin when kicked. It's like a "hey, you seriously need to calm down" message that you can't ignore. Sorry if you take that the wrong way.

Oh, and for the record, I invite ANYONE to grab PB screenshots of me.. pub/tester/dev/mod.. whatever... I don't hack just like the lot of you. My SSs will come out bright, and clear, 100% all the time. 100% Guaranteed. So roll that in your pipe and smoke it.