A bigger punishment for dying?

[77SiCaRiO77]

one thing that can encorage people to be more carefull is the "finish him!" thing

[77SiCaRiO77]

double :@

[77SiCaRiO77]

and what happend if i put my tank in front of your rally point and star camping your live

[Jonathan_Archer_nx01]

and what happend if i put my tank in front of your rally point and star camping your live

That's the reason IMO (not only this one, I could find hundreds) why there shouldn't be any penalty time. Spawn times could be extended but the penalty sux.

Bad day + opponent fraghunters + stronger opponent team = going daft over.

[mammikoura]

Well, if you arent enough of a PR player to destroy the RP immediately, I'd prolly whine it to you in public chat and spawn somewhere else.

exactly.
I rarely see RP camping happening, and if someone camps our RP I'd just spawn somewhere else.

[77SiCaRiO77]

i have fun the last week in ejod , one squad pur a rally point near the gardens , my SL say me "rally point near here " , i was searching and finaly see where the players spawn , yo i decide to shoot at then with the HEAT rounds , to destroy the rp ,BUT they still spawning , I shoot like 30 heats and they was spawning yet Oo , i make like 30 kill in 5 minutes

[Mongolian_dude]

I'd like to see death time increase for the next spawn by 25seconds(still counts if your on max spawn time) when you die as a Crewman and 35 if your a Pilot. This will mean cause pilots and crewmen to cheris their lives instead of just pressing suicide and respawnin, getting new pilot kit(as long as they have lived long enough to do so).


...mongol...

[bosco_]

+1s per death has worked fine. No need to change it.

[Sneak Attack]

if you voted for 3 or 2 you need to go away

[BetterDeadThanRed]

Agreed. You will just scare away players with this.

[Darkpowder]

its fine, the problem is those servers that have bugger all spawn delay...

I personally would like to see an optional CS-Style gamemode, for when you die, you are dead for the whole round. No respawn...

Only -optional- though to switch on, much like those no-armour nights, or no squads experimental nights some people have done in the past.

[Saobh]

well, isnt this becoming too extreme?

Its a game, where you kill others players, so its either you or him...
Making the punishment much bigger by each death would actually make people rather hide than attack, since they wouldnt want to die...making this a big game of hide and seek...

Hum wait a minute this reminds me of something ... oh yes !! WAR !

It wouln't be fair as sometimes you just can't avoid your death which can be very cheap. An entire squad could be sniped from distance, smashed with heavy AT, bomb. etc. That would get people really cross.

This is Project reality, death doesn't come from a face to face sword fight prearranged with an enemy. Its comes from anywhere and can catch you at the most ridiculous times, in short death sucks.

I have said this before and I will say it again. I play games to pull off the hollywood bad ***. If that means I die 5 times trying to do the unbelievable once so be it. If you empliment a (higher) punishment for dying then you will not have anyone trying to be Audi Murphy and everyone will be cowaring in corners till the shooting stops. I am not here to play john smith from company A, I am here to try and be the biggest bad *** around. As much as you want it to be real this IS still a game and should be treated as such.

Also on some of the 30 sec then death penalty servers I will find myself getting bored with stairing at the sky and go play another game. I dont mind it so much when I am just dead and can watch from 3rd person, its just the whole nothing on the screen that makes me loose interest real quick.

This mod is about teamwork, putting it in for the team. Its not about you,or your selfish developing ego. Its about being part of something bigger then you. Which in the end brings better lasting satisfaction. (ex.: the Tournament)
But you can always go back to Quake.

It's a game! Why do you want to punish yourselves?

Because from great effort comes great rewards. The day I'll play intelligently enough and not die a single time, while still being an asset for the team, I'll know that I'm good and earned it.

Mongolian_dude']I'd like to see death time increase for the next spawn by 25seconds(still counts if your on max spawn time) when you die as a Crewman and 35 if your a Pilot. This will mean cause pilots and crewmen to cheris their lives instead of just pressing suicide and respawnin, getting new pilot kit(as long as they have lived long enough to do so).


...mongol...

Ouh, this is a very nice idea indeed, and would help calm the "Yeah I own an APC lets charge in the middle of them disregarding my whole team telling me keep back"

and what happend if i put my tank in front of your rally point and star camping your live

You'll kill one, who'll warn the others, who'll warn the other squads, and you'll take one up the bum.
[and if mongols excellent idea is in play, you'll have an extra 25 seconds to understand that you could have used your armor in a more useful and lasting way.]

Keep em comming !

- Saobh Out -

ps: Voted 2 seconds as people still tend to charge without thinking enough and get their whole squad killed because they should have been in overwatch at the time.

[Hx.Clavdivs]

LOL. You think that is extreme? I want permanent death. How is that for "extreme"? 20-30 minutes waiting untill everybody dies, how about that wait. Played on mods with those kind of settings, and I had the patience. How about you?

[Jeeves]

This mod is about teamwork, putting it in for the team. Its not about you,or your selfish developing ego. Its about being part of something bigger then you. Which in the end brings better lasting satisfaction. (ex.: the Tournament)
But you can always go back to Quake.

Holy shit man calm down. Have you ever played with me? Take my example of Audie Murphy, go read what he did and tell me that he was not acting selfishly for something bigger than himself. Now tell me is what he did not a show of badassery, would you not want to recreate what he did (if even only in a game)?

If you want to punish for dying then you are only promoting cowardness. Who would want to take the anititive and mount that gun or draw fire for your teammate if it only means you will spend the next two min sitting on the sidelines. You have to have a blend of gameplay and realism, otherwise it wouldnt be a game...it would be real.

Or just do what someone in another thread mentioned, when you are dead you are banned from the server. That will teach you cowards to take this shit seriously

[General_J0k3r]

half an hour waiting is hard. but then, one would be cautious and for sure more medics around

[Rick_the_new_guy]

On TG Tac Mod, I believe the respawn timer was 60 seconds.

As I have posted a couple of times in other threads.

Give the server admins the liberity to have their spawn timers.

We should see a general patern:

Longer spawn times = humans looking for more realism and wanting the game slower.

Shorter spawn times= humans looking for less realism and wanting to play the game faster.

Granted, there are a lot of good realistic players who die very few times and want a reduced spawn time. I am not knocking you.

[Croix]

There needs to be a stopping point. Waiting two minutes every round when Basrah goes on really long is such a pain, it kind of makes me feel like I'm wasting my life waiting to respawn.

[Guerra]

I don't want a bunch of cowardly sissies in my squad. We don't need to make deaths worse. If you really want, we could just make this like counterstrike where its one death per round? BARF.