Stay, Stay, Stay, Stay, Stayiiiiiiing Aliiiiiiiive.

DrMcCleod · Post by **DrMcCleod** » 2007-05-08 12:33

As long as you value the death of your digital enemies more than you value your own life then PR will not be realistic and will not have realistic battles.

So, we need a mechanism to reward those who stay alive. I propose that staying alive for 15 (or whatever) minutes permits you to choose any of the limited kits (at the usual locations) regardless of how many of the limited kits have already been taken.

halvor1 · Post by **halvor1** » 2007-05-08 12:39

then people would just camp and no gameplay would be able so if you are going to add this you have to have like a camp punisher like in cs you start too lose life when youre standing at one position all the time.

DrMcCleod · Post by **DrMcCleod** » 2007-05-08 12:42

halvor2 wrote:then people would just camp and no gameplay would be able so if you are going to add this you have to have like a camp punisher like in cs you start too lose life when youre standing at one position all the time.

Camping is a legitimate military tactic so don't be a silly sausage.

Spudzzy · Post by **Spudzzy** » 2007-05-08 12:46

How about a set number of required kills to go along with it then? Or points/team points..

101 bassdrive · Post by **101 bassdrive** » 2007-05-08 13:17

Spudzzy wrote:How about a set number of required kills to go along with it then? Or points/team points..

sounds better. give the kits to valuable players whove earned it.

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-05-08 13:20

Maybe make the kits rank-dependant on ABR servers, problem solved...

DrMcCleod · Post by **DrMcCleod** » 2007-05-08 13:47

101 bassdrive wrote:sounds better. give the kits to valuable players whove earned it.

...and how would this cause a player to value his own life over the death of an enemy?

Long Bow · Post by **Long Bow** » 2007-05-08 14:08

I don't think I have ever stayed alive in PR for 15 minutes straight except as the commander

.

The majority of people in PR are going to be grunts who run a high risk of dying. I think rewarding staying alive is a good idea but I don't think we should punish dieing to much. The current time added to your spawn time is good and could be made a little more severe.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-05-08 14:33

Give extra points for staying alive? Yes. Absolutely yes.

Reward with kits? Hell, no gtfo!
I wouldnt call it a realistic battle, if you start losing health for staying in one spot and that you can get any kit you want (usually sniper anways

).
This would be like "hey I came back alive from the operation, gimme my own A10 now"..

KatanaGFR · Post by **KatanaGFR** » 2007-05-08 14:41

bosco wrote:Maybe make the kits rank-dependant on ABR servers, problem solved...

And for those that arent running ABR? I know a couple of servers, including mine, that use other statsystems then ABR.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-05-08 14:43

It should be dependant on a kill streak, staying alive and the total amount of teamwork points your squad has.

I don't know how much coding this would take, but I'm guessing a fair bit.

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-05-08 14:48

KatanaGFR wrote:And for those that arent running ABR? I know a couple of servers, including mine, that use other statsystems then ABR.

Bad luck...

j/k, I would imagine that system as an option that can be enabled by admins.
So you would be able to get the necessary stuff from Fritz or someone from ABR.

But I'm dreaming again, damn hardcodes.

jerkzilla · Post by **jerkzilla** » 2007-05-08 15:00

Why not just limit the number of lives a player has, which would depend on map size, tickets and faction? I bet everyone would want to stay alive if that was in...

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-05-08 15:05

Been suggested^. This isn't AA.....

jmull · Post by **jmull** » 2007-05-08 15:22

jerkzilla wrote:Why not just limit the number of lives a player has, which would depend on map size, tickets and faction? I bet everyone would want to stay alive if that was in...

ppl want to stay alive already and waiting 30 secs (+ the amount of times you die) is a big put off already for new players, limiting the number of lives would just be (more) damn frustrating if you were having a bad round, say if you had 10 lives for example and the round lasts for an hour and you get smashed in the first 15 - 20 mins. (let's face it it happens to everyone, now and again) would YOU like to sit around twiddling your thumbs for 40 mins. Or even the last 10 - 15 mins.
NOT ME! When I want to game, I want to game.
I don't want to sit here in my chair WAITING.

Sorry dudes but I disagree with this one and also think the dev's time would be better spent on something else, check out the "already suggested suggestions" thread, think about it, and then decide if you'd want the dev's to muck around with something like this or one of the few hundred different already suggested suggestions.
Just my Opinion!

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-05-08 16:36

yes there has been a few topics about this, but the problem is still there.
Right now, at least for me, getting killed doesn't have a big effect. I can get shot and then I'll be running around the map in 30-40 seconds.

But yeah, can't really think of anything that hasn't been suggested before that would fix this.

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-05-09 00:12

Do people actually care about how many points they get in a round on this mod?

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-05-09 00:13

Ignore ranks, big load of ****.

youm0nt · Post by **youm0nt** » 2007-05-09 00:19

Yeah, this is starting to remind me of vBF2...