The rest are 4 ( not counting small ones ) countries on the Arabian Peninsula ?bobfish wrote: the rest are very Anglo-US equipment.
Mi-24 HIND for the MEC!
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http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_e ... east98.jpg
Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran are predominatly Anglo-US equipped and trained countries (all with a healthy amount of European equipment as well, as it's always for sale). Considering the US government believe the future threat of instability in the region will come from Syria and Iran, I think it's a fairly safe thing to assume Iran as the only major military power in the region would make up the backbone of the MEC Armed Forces. I don't really know anything about Yemen or Oman, Turkey is a strong western ally, and the former USSR states really have very little modern equipment.
Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran are predominatly Anglo-US equipped and trained countries (all with a healthy amount of European equipment as well, as it's always for sale). Considering the US government believe the future threat of instability in the region will come from Syria and Iran, I think it's a fairly safe thing to assume Iran as the only major military power in the region would make up the backbone of the MEC Armed Forces. I don't really know anything about Yemen or Oman, Turkey is a strong western ally, and the former USSR states really have very little modern equipment.
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Former USSR states aren't that retarded to fight against US . You , westeners & USers still believe that Russia and it's former sattelites are the main threat on the Globe... come on , noone wants cold\hot war here .Thats all about your propoganda that tells you that russians are enemyes ... when they aren't . We have enough problems inside the country and noone wants another weapons race ( or whatever ; not sure if I translated it right )bobfish wrote:and the former USSR states really have very little modern equipment.
Turkey is a NATO member and will be EU member soon ... so I haven't even count it . Same goes with Egypt , which betrayed USSR in 70s ..Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran
Saudi Arabia is now buying BMP-3's , is interested in T-90s\T-95s . Iraq was armed by USSR and I'm sure that US haven't destroyed all it's tanks\helos\jets
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When did I say that? I'm the person in this thread saying MEC shouldn't be full of Russian equipment, cause they don't have much of it.. they should be using Western equipment mainly.
And when deciding what would logically be the main type of equipment for the MEC forces, you have to take into consideration the current equipment being used by Arabic countries, which is, mainly, Anglo-US equipment with a lot of European small arms.
Thirdly, Britain, USA and Ukraine are pretty good allies atm, or did you not know your country is part of the Coalition in Iraq?
And when deciding what would logically be the main type of equipment for the MEC forces, you have to take into consideration the current equipment being used by Arabic countries, which is, mainly, Anglo-US equipment with a lot of European small arms.
Thirdly, Britain, USA and Ukraine are pretty good allies atm, or did you not know your country is part of the Coalition in Iraq?
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Was . Contingent is out , only one chemical batallion left .bobfish wrote: did you not know your country is part of the Coalition in Iraq?
Anglo-US equipment your are speaking about is mostly used on the Arabian Peninsula . Other middle eastern countryes have up to 50% of russian weaponsbobfish wrote:And when deciding what would logically be the main type of equipment for the MEC forces, you have to take into consideration the current equipment being used by Arabic countries, which is, mainly, Anglo-US equipment with a lot of European small arms.
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Longbow* wrote:Former USSR states aren't that retarded to fight against US . You , westeners & USers still believe that Russia and it's former sattelites are the main threat on the Globe... come on , noone wants cold\hot war here .Thats all about your propoganda that tells you that russians are enemyes ... when they aren't . We have enough problems inside the country and noone wants another weapons race ( or whatever ; not sure if I translated it right )
Yeah! Communist pride!
Ok, seriously guys, stop it now. I don't want to lock this thread.
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I'm bumping this post because I think this needs to be heard. MEC needs the Mi-24(P variant would be preferable).
The Hind would be the most likely attack chopper to be found in any middle east conflict and there are some newer varients that may prove interesting for the near future PR. I mentioned above about the Mi-24P which has a twin 30mm cannon GSh-30K fix mounted to the side (pretty much the same cannon as the Su-25) and the capablity for two racks of four missiles (4 9M39 Igla AA missiles and 4 AT-6 spiral ATGMs, or you could just use 8 AT-6s and call it a day). So even with all that, there is still room left for 4 pylons of rockets. The rocket pods on the Mi-28 should do nicely (and look more original and modern than the conical pointed pods of the S-5 rockets) with 20 a pod, we have a grand total of 80 80mm S-8 rockets.
Clearly a beast, but we arn't done. Add 2 KORD or PKT MGs in the doors and 4 passengers and you are good to go for quick insertions.
One thing that EA failed miserably at was the handling of the Hind. The Hind may be big and clumsy, but its fast. It can easilly outrun the other attack choppers. When in full forward motion, it flies more like a jet and should be used to strafe an LZ before circling and dropping of its 6 passengers before flying off to go make the enemy wet themselves as it thunders overhead.
This also may prove to be a good complement to the *cough* V-22M *cough* *cough*
Apologies for bumping this old thread, but atleast I didn't create a new one, right?
The Hind would be the most likely attack chopper to be found in any middle east conflict and there are some newer varients that may prove interesting for the near future PR. I mentioned above about the Mi-24P which has a twin 30mm cannon GSh-30K fix mounted to the side (pretty much the same cannon as the Su-25) and the capablity for two racks of four missiles (4 9M39 Igla AA missiles and 4 AT-6 spiral ATGMs, or you could just use 8 AT-6s and call it a day). So even with all that, there is still room left for 4 pylons of rockets. The rocket pods on the Mi-28 should do nicely (and look more original and modern than the conical pointed pods of the S-5 rockets) with 20 a pod, we have a grand total of 80 80mm S-8 rockets.
Clearly a beast, but we arn't done. Add 2 KORD or PKT MGs in the doors and 4 passengers and you are good to go for quick insertions.
One thing that EA failed miserably at was the handling of the Hind. The Hind may be big and clumsy, but its fast. It can easilly outrun the other attack choppers. When in full forward motion, it flies more like a jet and should be used to strafe an LZ before circling and dropping of its 6 passengers before flying off to go make the enemy wet themselves as it thunders overhead.
This also may prove to be a good complement to the *cough* V-22M *cough* *cough*
Apologies for bumping this old thread, but atleast I didn't create a new one, right?
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Hmmm... this is interesing the Mi-24 is a Highly Verisitle Helicopter bit im going to have to Disagree with the MEC Getting it, the MEC would be looking probably for a Tank Busting Helicopter to engage US Armourd Divisions and UK Challenger 2 MBTs, the Job would then Call for the Ka-50 or Ka-52 (prefer Ka-52) But Either Way its Just a New Helicopter which the MEC Need.
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Mec already have Mi-28 , whats the reason to add another tank buster helo ?-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:Hmmm... this is interesing the Mi-24 is a Highly Verisitle Helicopter bit im going to have to Disagree with the MEC Getting it, the MEC would be looking probably for a Tank Busting Helicopter to engage US Armourd Divisions and UK Challenger 2 MBTs, the Job would then Call for the Ka-50 or Ka-52 (prefer Ka-52) But Either Way its Just a New Helicopter which the MEC Need.
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