Adding an m240!

GR34 · Post by **GR34** » 2007-07-10 16:53

Ok I searched for this but i didn't find any thing!

so my idea is, can we add a heavy support kit? For the Americans it could be an m240 and for the British it could be the GPMG (unless they are the same gun they look the same) The number of support kits can simply be divided like if there is normally 4 support kits then make TWO of them have the heavier MG's! Now Iam no military expert but I am pretty sure that the US and the UK use these guns in combat please correct me if I am wrong!

I just had this idea when i was playing ArmA for the first time last night so flame all you want but I think its a good idea and would be great for holding hard points, for variety and I read about people wanting a deployable .50cal so this might be a compromise! also if you want do do it for insurgents you can use the pkm and the RTK-74 or RPK-74
GPMG[UK]

m240[US]

Type 88 [QJY 88] [china]

$kelet0r · Post by **$kelet0r** » 2007-07-10 16:56

I'm sure it is planned eventually - personnally I'd prefer the difference to be a LMG as a requestable kit (the rpk should be the insurgent firepower rather than the PKM) and have GPMGs (FN Mag, PKM etc) as mounted or vehicle based weapons only. The Devs iirc have plans to make deployable weapons (mortars, gpmg's, TOWs et al) a commander asset

(T)eflon(S)hadow · Post by **(T)eflon(S)hadow** » 2007-07-10 16:57

M-240 G or Golf is an awesome machine gun! Great Idea, why didnt I think of that?

sekiryu · Post by **sekiryu** » 2007-07-10 16:58

I think both the M240G/B and the GMPG come from the original FN MAG.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-07-10 17:02

I would love to see a Heavy Support kit would be sweet.

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-07-10 17:09

Principally I'd like to see this in game,but before i want to hear Bob's opinion to that

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-07-10 17:12

I wouldn't mind seeing them as static MGs (if I recall correctly, USMC uses static SAWs right now, and 240s would fit better, imo). I've also seen pictures of Humvees with mounted 240s in Iraq, but we obviously don't need that since we have the .50 cals.

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-07-10 18:01

HellDuke wrote:Hm... Magazine or belt with 100 bullets, no nades, sidearm or extra mags, and another kit HMG2 (heavy machine guner 2) which acts similar to the rifleman but he will be the only one that can give the ammo to the HMG.
Remember that these weapons are manned either only in defencive emplasments, mounted on vehicles or by 2 soldiers

Yeah,the greatest thing would be a HMG2-kit with special Ammo Bags that only contains HMG ammo plus a carbine or something for CQB situations or when meeting resistance on the move.
And if I'm allowed to dream: The HMG could be deployable,but only when a HMG2-Kit of the same sqad is in a 5 metre radius and you couldn't shoot if he moves away or something.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-07-10 18:04

British GPMG

its a WIP, but hopefully we'll get to see more of it later on

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-07-10 18:04

Waste of manpower IMO, why would you use two guys if you can have a one mobile guy with a 249?

Long Bow · Post by **Long Bow** » 2007-07-10 18:17

For shame El_Vikingo, this is listed in your already suggested thread

I would love to see a portable m240, drop the two man crew and give him only one belt of ammo. He will need a rifleman etc. out of neccesity then when he runs dry.

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-07-10 18:36

Well, we are getting the M240's on the Blackhawks at some point.

I have suggested adding bipods for the support and sniper weapons. Search if you are interested.

Aljen · Post by **Aljen** » 2007-07-10 20:54

How would this kit be different from current support kit? Extreme damage and low mobility or what?

Wasteland · Post by **Wasteland** » 2007-07-10 21:09

The M240 is operated by a team of three people. The ammo bearer, the gunner, and the assistant gunner. And you can't have crew served weapons in BF2...

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-07-10 21:59

Aljen wrote:How would this kit be different from current support kit? Extreme damage and low mobility or what?

More damage, lower round count would be my guess.

'cept for the MEC, of course, as they already carry a 7.62x51mm GPMG with 600 round for the standard support kit.

*cough*MG3 (andP90, but not on the same kit) for MEC*cough*

Oh, how I wish the GPMG was back on the Landy and Saxon. I miss it so...

KP · Post by KP » 2007-07-10 22:04

There is a GPMG (and not a P90) on the Landy.

Anyway, we could do it the SAS way.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-07-10 22:08

I know, but its a very limited GPMG. I much prefured the one on the 360 degree pintle mount.

Damn $keletor and his vile followers for pressuring the Devs to put 12.7mm weapons on them!

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-07-10 23:15

Could we please ban Bob Marley and KP when they next mention or reference the use of a P90 in Project Reality?
Or cause people to post it for them

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-07-10 23:21

What was that eddie? Give the MEC a p90? Yeah that is a good idea!

If usefulness is the primary concern could we not scope MMGs? not sure if this is entirely realistic though. Also would the MMGs increase in power not also mean an increase in range and less bullet drop which would make them all the more useful? I'd assume there was a higher muzzle velocity too but these are all questions for bob of course and I dunno if bullet speed is covered by BF2, wouldn't surprise me if every small arms round travelled the same speed...

As for the team thing I'm sure the devs can work round it, they seem to have done with every other restrictive £"%%ing thing in the engines coding.