GameFlood Mod and Map Contest - Vote for Project Reality!

Sun Tzu · Post by **Sun Tzu** » 2007-07-10 14:19

voted as always

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-07-10 15:53

well I don't know if game engines are that expensive.
Something around $400,000 would be my guess for unreal engine 3.

And now if they get that $3k then eggman can sponsor the rest since we all know that he has way too much money.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2007-07-10 17:56

I assume that game engines are very hard to make?

Leo · Post by **Leo** » 2007-07-10 18:23

Nah, they;re a cinch to make.

Post by **KingofCamelot** » 2007-07-11 00:33

TF6049 wrote:So, if PR gets 3000 US $, can they make a new FPS?

Got my vote.

$3000 will cover about a year and a half of our server bills.

It ain't cheap running all the different sites we've got going.

M4nicMin3r · Post by **M4nicMin3r** » 2007-07-11 07:19

wo0o by the looks of the voting, PR is kicking *** and taking names

GO PR!

vote vote vote!

I know its probably only the first round or w/e but it would be great for PR to win.., even better if it wins by a massive margin

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2007-07-11 07:22

Leo wrote:Nah, they;re a cinch to make.

What I wasn´t sure about is whether they were extemely difficult to make, or if it had more to do with time. I don´t know anything about making a game engine, is it alot of coding etc...?

Post by **KingofCamelot** » 2007-07-11 07:27

Alex6714 wrote:What I wasn´t sure about is whether they were extemely difficult to make, or if it had more to do with time. I don´t know anything about making a game engine, is it alot of coding etc...?

To make a modern game engine it takes a team of 20-30 well educated and specialized programmers several years.

So, er, ya, quite a bit of time.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2007-07-11 07:33

'[R-DEV wrote:KingofCamelot']To make a modern game engine it takes a team of 20-30 well educated and specialized programmers several years.

So, er, ya, quite a bit of time.

Ah

We need more programmers!

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-07-11 07:34

'[R-DEV wrote:KingofCamelot']$3000 will cover about a year and a half of our server bills. It ain't cheap running all the different sites we've got going.

I have said this before: Setup a Paypal option and I and many others shall gladly support PR.

Post by **KingofCamelot** » 2007-07-11 07:40

Apheirox wrote:I have said this before: Setup a Paypal option and I and many others shall gladly support PR.

And the team continues to have ethical dilemas over the whole thing.

Contributing money to the mod could create several problems, such as some members thinking they are entitled to something because they donated, what to do with extra money, whos to be in charge of the money, etc. Its something we'd rather avoid if possible and instead work off of the cleaner contests.

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-07-11 08:03

Heh, I do not feel it is problematic. You just need to make it very clear that it is a donation and not a purchase that entitles you to special treatment (unless you opt for that which I would find perfectly ethical). Also, you do not have to put a huge, imposing Paypal on the front page - just put it somewhere discreet.

Anyway, I will continue to show my gratitude by voting for PR whenever requested. That kinds of begs the question, though: What will you do with such a considerable prize sum if (when!) you win if you do not know how to share donation pebbles?

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-07-11 10:10

'[R-DEV wrote:KingofCamelot']what to do with extra money

mmmm.. beer.... ymmm

no but seriously, I doubt there would be too much money left over after using the donations to pay for your game servers and websites. And if there is, then you can just close donations after a while and say that you do have enough money to pay for the servers & website, or even just split the money between the dev team. I know you probably don't think that is the right thing but I'm sure most of the players wouldn't mind if you got some money for making such a great mod. We all know how much time and patience it takes to create a great mod like this one.

householddog · Post by **householddog** » 2007-07-11 12:14

mammikoura wrote:mmmm.. beer.... ymmm

no but seriously, I doubt there would be too much money left over after using the donations to pay for your game servers and websites. And if there is, then you can just close donations after a while and say that you do have enough money to pay for the servers & website, or even just split the money between the dev team. I know you probably don't think that is the right thing but I'm sure most of the players wouldn't mind if you got some money for making such a great mod. We all know how much time and patience it takes to create a great mod like this one.

I can see what they are getting at. They are all volunteers and giving them money would give them problems. People could argue they purchased the game and claim they have been ripped off for one reason or another.

Remember the catch all phrase "its a free mod if you don't like it don't download it" would, at least philosophically, not ring true.

EDIT one more vote from me. great work guys. The Australian crew are getting right behind this one for you..

Leo · Post by **Leo** » 2007-07-11 12:35

Apheirox wrote: What will you do with such a considerable prize sum if (when!) you win if you do not know how to share donation pebbles?

Hookers and Blow

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-07-11 13:29

householddog wrote:I can see what they are getting at. They are all volunteers and giving them money would give them problems. People could argue they purchased the game and claim they have been ripped off for one reason or another.

well yeah, but they can always put some text next to the donate link telling that it's a DONATION. And that people aren't buying any priviledges etc.
But yeah, it could be a problem but I doubt they even want our money.
And like I said, I bet they could waste all of the donations by paying the server & website hosting.

=Romagnolo= · Post by **=Romagnolo=** » 2007-07-11 13:31

Winning !

Post by **Masaq** » 2007-07-11 19:13

Apheirox wrote:That kinds of begs the question, though: What will you do with such a considerable prize sum if (when!) you win if you do not know how to share donation pebbles?

Whilst the Gameflood page suggests it's a USD25,000 grand prize, it's actually 25k in TOTAL prize money. The actual winnings for the team, if they go on to win, are $3,000. Second place is $1k, third is $500. Which is still a considerable sum of money but nothing like the massive surplus that'd be available were the team to win 25 grand lol.

With server costs of around $150 per month, the prize would be swallowed up in well under two years.

Post by **KingofCamelot** » 2007-07-12 07:08

Come on people, four days to get us to 1,000 points!