Whats up with the A10 domination?

VipersGhost · Post by **VipersGhost** » 2007-08-13 20:13

I've been on Kashan several times and just been dominated continuously by the A10. We would have 3 pilots in the air and 1 A10 would just be working our armor and other jets over. I assumed our pilots were sucky but I have seen this many times since. Is there something up or is the A10 just awesome? You'd think the migs could work it over but they seem to struggle. I'm not saying the A10 is overpowered or anything, just curiuos as to everyone else experience with this.

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 20:15

One good A10 pilot can rule the skies. If they have escorts they are even more deadly. i think the biggest problem is bad pilots. If you have bad Mig pilots you are screwed.

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-08-13 20:19

I recommend all server owners switch over to the 32 player version of Kashan. It's exactly the same except it has helicopters not jets. It plays much better.

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-08-13 20:22

Good pilots vs Bad AA, maybe?

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 20:22

[R-CON]GeZe wrote:I recommend all server owners switch over to the 32 player version of Kashan. It's exactly the same except it has helicopters not jets. It plays much better.

BOOOO!!! Then where do we get to fly? And have some nice dogfights? Its the only map in rotations with planes. Might as well take planes out of PR then.

Like i seen in another thread somewhere. Make locks hard to get and Air to Air missiles DEADLIER. Good pilots will excel.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-08-13 20:25

it pee's me off when A10 is used to minigun other planes, if it cant be used probly in a realism mod then it should be removed and brought back as a commander aid

geogob · Post by **geogob** » 2007-08-13 20:30

I also think the server should only use the 32 p version.

The airplanes in this game are simply too unrealistic. That is in their handling, performances, weapon systems, navigation, and even role. There's no place for a plane in a 8 by 8 km map.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-08-13 20:33

I don't think planes are totally out of place, but I do think they should be put back into the toy box until at least v0.7 when missiles and AAVs are improved (if they're being improved in 0.7) as well as making the handling more realistic and whatnot.

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 20:41

Bob_Marley wrote:I don't think planes are totally out of place, but I do think they should be put back into the toy box until at least v0.7 when missiles and AAVs are improved (if they're being improved in 0.7) as well as making the handling more realistic and whatnot.

I agree but..

I think the AAVs are fine. Its the Air to Air missiles that are the problems. I have had locks that should have never missed just vere off right before hitting the target.

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Good pilots can turn the tides of battle. Just like a commander using assets or not using assets. Or one team with a CO and one without one. Getting rid of the planes because you had a great pilot destroying you isnt the right option. Get in a plane and train up and take that A10 out. I can make it so the A10 won't bother the Armor. Just keep the nubs out of the planes so i can get one.

Post by **Falkun** » 2007-08-13 20:41

I agree, planes should be put away until AA is more reliable. Kashan would be much more enjoyable for all, if the only air power available, was choppers. The fact that a single jet can potentially have so much power in a single game, is not beneficial to the overall balance of the map.

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 20:41

delete

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 20:43

delete.

A-10Warthog · Post by **A-10Warthog** » 2007-08-13 20:44

a-10s dominate irl plain and simple.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-08-13 20:47

not againts a tunguska

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-08-13 20:48

ups , double post

VipersGhost · Post by **VipersGhost** » 2007-08-13 20:51

I agree on the 32 player vs of Kashan....MUCH better. I say play to the strengths of the engine and stick with the Choppers...I think they are modeled/function MUCH more realistically than the jets within the scope of PR. I'm all for putting the Jets away, until they can fit with PR in a better way. I think the issue goes beyond more than poor AA rockets as well. Just my .02 though.

Post by **LeadMagnet** » 2007-08-13 20:54

[R-PUB]A-10WarthogPilot wrote:a-10s dominate irl plain and simple.

A-10's would have their asses handed to them by a 40 year old Mig-21 irl let alone a Mig-29.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2007-08-13 21:04

FSgt.Lang |3-5| wrote:A-10's would have their asses handed to them by a 40 year old Mig-21 irl let alone a Mig-29.

It's the pilot, not the aircraft.

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-08-13 21:04

Cerberus wrote:It's the pilot, not the aircraft.

thank you

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Put the Cobra and Mi28 Havok back in and tanks would be getting raped by them. Kashan is for pilots and armor. Al Kufrah Oilfield is for helos and armor. Don't kill the one map we still have.

A good Mig or F16 pilot can take out the frogfoot or A10. If you dont go to war with all your assets your going to lose. A team with a good A10/Frogfoot pilot has an advantage over one with out. Just like team with a CO and one without one.