MEC Ligher Transports

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-09-28 22:47

One question I've been meaning to ask: Is a remodel of the Vodnik to make it more accurate and AMPHIBIOUS going to happen at any point?

Now on to the suggestion: Can we start to see more of the light MEC Jeeps on future / redone maps? I love the hell out of those things, and figure since the MEC is fictional it would be interesting to see more of these around. It would give the MEC a punch in the early game since they are quite fast, and pack quite a bit of fire power against infantry.

I guess in the future it could be remodeled to have only one MG, though.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-09-29 12:16

i love the idea of a new model as most of us do, im sure the devs have things planned.. or perhaps a commuity member can model it

never know

Superior Mind · Post by **Superior Mind** » 2007-09-29 12:26

Expendable Grunt wrote:One question I've been meaning to ask: Is a remodel of the Vodnik to make it more accurate and AMPHIBIOUS going to happen at any point?

Now on to the suggestion: Can we start to see more of the light MEC Jeeps on future / redone maps? I love the hell out of those things, and figure since the MEC is fictional it would be interesting to see more of these around. It would give the MEC a punch in the early game since they are quite fast, and pack quite a bit of fire power against infantry.

I guess in the future it could be remodeled to have only one MG, though.

Yeah, I saw that the vodnik is amphibious in real life too. But to what extent is it? Can it go on open seas like a boat?

youm0nt · Post by **youm0nt** » 2007-09-29 14:14

Didn't the developers say that it would make things unbalanced compared to the humvee and Nanjing? For example, some people said they want a closed humvee but then the Vodnik and Nanjing would have to be closed to balance it out.

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 2007-09-29 15:18

Is this project reality or not !?
It should be made as it is IRL
Right?

I would like to see an closed humvee
Give the Vodnik his swimming boots
Closed Nanjing or maybe replacement,
Beijing warrior

supahpingi · Post by **supahpingi** » 2007-09-29 15:19

Man they gotta quit with the balance.
balance isnt really important in PR.
If u have 2 PRO squads in one team and none in the other its unbalanced anyway.
i just hope they put everything in just to make it realitic.

Just my 2 cents.

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 2007-09-29 15:22

Another guy who agreed !
Hahah !

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-09-29 16:40

Superior Mind wrote:Yeah, I saw that the vodnik is amphibious in real life too. But to what extent is it? Can it go on open seas like a boat?

LAV-25 can't go on open seas in real life, and yet it does in game... Unfortunately, I don't think you can really do much about it with the BF2 engine.

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-09-29 21:11

supahpingi wrote:Man they gotta quit with the balance.
balance isnt really important in PR.
If u have 2 PRO squads in one team and none in the other its unbalanced anyway.
i just hope they put everything in just to make it realitic.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah I prefer the idea of having little differences like this between sides then having balance. Gives more character to armies. If you know your strengths and weaknesses you can have a good battle. Only thing is it's only gonna work if all sides have little things like this that differentiate them, and it's not just one side who's jeep-a-like can cross a river.

Trigz07 · Post by **Trigz07** » 2007-09-29 21:23

I agree the mod is being ruined by balance. I mean come on. So your saying the usaf is the same as mec airforce even though the usaf is the best in the world.

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-09-29 21:25

tesher07 wrote:I agree the mod is being ruined by balance. I mean come on. So your saying the usaf is the same as mec airforce even though the usaf is the best in the world.

I thought that title belonged to Israel?

Trigz07 · Post by **Trigz07** » 2007-09-29 21:53

What? Can I have some of what your smoking?

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-09-29 21:55

tesher07 wrote:What? Can I have some of what your smoking?

sry i wouldnt offer a freshmen any of that

jk

but, seriously

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2007-09-29 22:04

This has been discussed before; Vodnik and HMMWV are apples and oranges. DICE mistakenly put them in the same class, and until we fix both models that isn't going to change.

As to the original poster's question about the UAZ-469 jeeps appearing on more maps, that's really up to the mappers.

Post by **ZZEZ** » 2007-09-29 22:08

tesher07 wrote:I agree the mod is being ruined by balance. I mean come on. So your saying the usaf is the same as mec airforce even though the usaf is the best in the world.

Sometimes, reality isn't fun - thats where balance comes in to play, nobody will enjoy playing MEC if US armor/air would rape them.

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-09-29 23:18

leave it up to the mapper to balance if they want.

DarkTalon · Post by **DarkTalon** » 2007-09-29 23:40

It's almost like DICE modeled all the US vehicles, copied and pasted them twice, moved some of the verticies around, and slapped a chineese or MEC flag on them. modern warfare is not symmetric, very few battles have ever been symmetric. one side has always had an advantage in one aspect of war. whether it be cavalry, spearmen, intelligence, airpower, or seapower.

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2007-09-30 01:05

You can always balance the unbalanced sides with tickets. If one side have better equipment than the other one, give less tickets to that better equiped side.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-09-30 01:12

ZZEZ wrote:Sometimes, reality isn't fun - thats where balance comes in to play, nobody will enjoy playing MEC if US armor/air would rape them.

afaik , FH shermans where raped by panzers all the time and i didnt hear a complain about that .

Trigz07 · Post by **Trigz07** » 2007-09-30 05:02

And who won the war the allies did.