Black Hawk improvement

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Do we need a arm-function for the miniguns?

Poll ended at 2008-01-17 07:15

Yes
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No
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36%
 
Total votes: 56

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Post by MAINERROR »

agentscar wrote:Uhh,currently there's just the Seahawk,says NAVY on it ya know,everybody calls it a Blackhawk...PR should take the Blackhawk from USI and throw it in,only maps with Carriers should have that Seahawk
No not really ... its a mix of a Black Hawk and a Sea Hawk
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Post by Masaq »

Well, I'm of the opinion that all the choppers should have as many seats as possible so if another can get crammed into the BH then why not?

I'd also say that having a dedicated co-pilot can be very useful, if they're spotting and calling out routes.

Having 8 spaces on a BH would mean you could fit an entire squad into a blackhawk, and have a pilot and co or pilot and the commander in the front.

Given that there are a maximum of about 3 blackhawks on most maps, it'd mean the blackhawk squad could have 6 guys, 3 pilots and 3 co's, with no-one sat at base just camping for a chopper.


Also, whoever said the BH is tippy is in need of practice. On a map like Jabal, I can pick up the blackhawk at the start of the match and fly insertions onto the mainland for the entire game with no problems - and usually no deaths, too. The trick is to practice lots and to not fly with the throttle on full constantly. When turning, use "blips" of power to push the chopper through the turn.

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Post by Alex6714 »

DarkTalon wrote:have you flown it? it's like trying to balance an aircraft carrier on top of a flagpole.
I have to agree with you there. Worst flying helicopter in the game.
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Post by MAINERROR »

[R-MOD]Masaq wrote:Well, I'm of the opinion that all the choppers should have as many seats as possible so if another can get crammed into the BH then why not?

I'd also say that having a dedicated co-pilot can be very useful, if they're spotting and calling out routes.

Having 8 spaces on a BH would mean you could fit an entire squad into a blackhawk, and have a pilot and co or pilot and the commander in the front.

Given that there are a maximum of about 3 blackhawks on most maps, it'd mean the blackhawk squad could have 6 guys, 3 pilots and 3 co's, with no-one sat at base just camping for a chopper.


Also, whoever said the BH is tippy is in need of practice. On a map like Jabal, I can pick up the blackhawk at the start of the match and fly insertions onto the mainland for the entire game with no problems - and usually no deaths, too. The trick is to practice lots and to not fly with the throttle on full constantly. When turning, use "blips" of power to push the chopper through the turn.
Thats exactly what i mean

@ other guys

I'm able to hover without moving ... its just a question of how much you practice.
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Post by Alex6714 »

MAINERROR wrote:Thats exactly what i mean

@ other guys

I'm able to hover without moving ... its just a question of how much you practice.
I am able to hover without moving, it is when moving in the BH that is the problem.
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Post by MAINERROR »

Alex6714 wrote:I am able to hover without moving, it is when moving in the BH that is the problem.
Whats the problem when moving? I cant follow really ...
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Post by Sabre_tooth_tigger »

Ive flown Jabal for the entire map without crashing or being shot down, more then once.
Its actually more stable then the LB, its faster and its stronger.

The only thing that can catch you out is the acceleration which can be sudden, practise helps.
Merlin is the most stable of the helis but I probably prefer the BH, I think its a bit faster

BH needs miniguns that sound like this though :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsHHvWSrJxM[/youtube]
We'd have none of that west beach camping if it fired 6000 rounds a minute like you know it should :lol:
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Post by pureperversions »

any one ever play gunship2000 on the amiga? blackhawk with quad FFAR, now that would mess up west beach a bit :p

the only things that would be usefull to have the copilot for is either opening/closing the side doors, arming the miniguns and spotting but the first two would be to open for idiots to screw around with and how many people would spot for it to make it worth devs spending the time to code the changes
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Post by DarkTalon »

I have alot of experience with all of the choppers, i never said i could not fly them, it's just the blackhawk feels like standing on a rolling log, it's easy to control, it's useful and i can last upwards to 1 1/2 hours in the same aircraft even with enemy fire on jabal. it's just that split second of server lag, where you have no control it just rolls down to the left and, next thing you know "you will respawn in: 28".
whereas with say, the merlin you get some lag, even 2-3 seconds and you're still on a straight course.
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Post by MAINERROR »

No thats not true ... i've crashed also with the Merlin cause of lags ... it depends on your position when there is a lag. I have something like 1000 hours vBF2 helopractice and i dont know alot of practice with PR helos so its not just you with very much experince with the helos. :-P

EDIT: Many guys still think that it'd be a very good idea to arm the miniguns first.
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Post by DJJ-Terror »

that arming thing is just compleatly unnecesary.

Just think of noob pilot who dosent have a cloe and the rest of chopper that screams "arm that bloody gun so we can fire!".

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Post by MAINERROR »

Good point but a noob pilot would probably crash the helo anyway ...
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Post by Cp »

how about if its armed by default? and the pilot can switch them off if he wants too.
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Post by MAINERROR »

Cp20000 wrote:how about if its armed by default? and the pilot can switch them off if he wants too.
That also a good idea but that means that it would not have the effect that it should have.
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Post by LtSoucy »

iu like the idea but the peopel; before me said what i was going to say.
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Post by LtSoucy »

i like the idea but the peopel; before me said what i was going to say.
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Post by wojing_rotorhead »

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Post by MAINERROR »

wojing_rotorhead wrote: :shock:
And what should that mean? Does it mean :shock: cool idea or :shock: stupid idea or just :shock: i don't know? :razz:
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Post by agentscar »

There is no Blackhawk in BF2 or any mod,except U.S. Intervention...

You're flying the SeaHawk,why don't you gies just take the BHawk from USI and put it PR,except for maps where you have carriers,then the SeaHawk makes sense.
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