Mini Gun

RATMAN250 · Post by **RATMAN250** » 2006-01-09 21:18

Guys,

I think we need these. Check it out.

http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/Hans ... mini-2.mpg

Dethleffs · Post by **Dethleffs** » 2006-01-09 21:21

i would already be pleased with an m240... gimmeh! gimmeh!

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-09 21:47

These are already on the BlackHawks in the game, I don't think that these are usually carried around with soldiers though if that is what you mean.

DangChang · Post by **DangChang** » 2006-01-10 00:15

Mounted miniguns on the ground would seem pretty awkward to me. I mean it would be pretty heavy, and make you a big target if you're being sneaked up on.

Anyway heres a longer video:

http://www.subgunvideos.com/gallery/mai ... temId=3644

Post by **JavaMoose** » 2006-01-10 00:41

DangChang wrote: Anyway heres a longer video:

http://www.subgunvideos.com/gallery/mai ... temId=3644

That is 'effing sick!

Why don't they mount those on HMMVs?

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-10 00:46

My guess would be ammunition economy.

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2006-01-10 01:05

JavaMoose wrote:That is 'effing sick!

Why don't they mount those on HMMVs?

They do, I've seen a video of some SF in Iraq. One of the weapons at their disposal was a vehicle mounted M-134.

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-01-10 01:45

If I were in Iraq, I'd get six peices of iron pipe, spot-weld them to the inside of a soup can cylinder, and slide my "minigun" over the .50 caliber. No more ambushes when they see a vulcan cannon sticking out of a jeep. And you'd imagine that wouldnt' work, but a B-29 crew stuck empty artillery casings over their rear tail guns like a big 40mm Bofors and were never attacked from behind again.

Specia10ps · Post by **Specia10ps** » 2006-01-10 06:55

JavaMoose wrote:That is 'effing sick!

Why don't they mount those on HMMVs?

Effective ROF is directly related to the difference in speed between the target and the shooter. IE a helo traveling 100mph firing a 3000rpm weapon might have an impact every foot or two. The same weapon on a HMMV would be a bit overkill. Conversely a 600 rpm gun on helo would have bullets impact spread out so that it might have a hard time effectively engauging infantry.
Ive heard of some guns that have a sick ROF but were never really used because it just ended up being too much.

Or at least thats how I understand it.

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-01-10 07:04

Back in the 30's, the Germans figured that between the sound or flash of a machine gun firing and the few seconds before troops take to ground was the enemy's most vulnerable moment. The more bullets you can throw out in two or three seconds, the better. The result was the MG34 and 42, landmark and lethal weapons. Very high-speed burst firing is effective, however, a 6-barrel gatling requires a sturdy mount for firing, electric power and a huge amount of carefully linked and clean ammunition. A gun mounted open-air on top of a convoy humvee would probably be unreliable from all the dust and vibration getting into the belts and gears.

But damn, you could pour it on...

Noetheinner · Post by **Noetheinner** » 2006-01-10 07:19

Oh, and the minigun reliability sucks by the way. You get one round not linked perfectly, and you gotta almost disassemble the whole f***ing gun. Not good on the aircraft, but even more deadly on the ground I'd imagine.

Harven · Post by **Harven** » 2006-01-10 07:32

You guys never saw Predator before? Looke at Ventura...

But I'd probably rather not have it in this game.. as if it were too powerful.. everyone would use it and it would be an arcade game again.

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-01-10 10:10

The Hummer mounted minigun.

http://www.gdatp.com/products/lethality ... edia/1.htm

Enjoy.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-10 10:31

awsome against choppers and people also tanks and emplaements/walls

Raaschou · Post by **Raaschou** » 2006-01-10 15:22

Harven wrote:You guys never saw Predator before?

The minigun in that movie was "Made In Hollywood"!

IRL, it would require too much battery-power og and ammunition, for one man to carry.

Saw it on a "special-effects"-program once...

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-10 15:32

an ammo drum probably weights more then twice the usual kit a soldier carrys (excluding armour) do you really want to be humping one of those around you would be the slowest target on the map and vunerable to dieing and ambush.

Noetheinner · Post by **Noetheinner** » 2006-01-10 16:40

Oh yeah! the full weapon system on the Huey weighed over 100 lbs easily. If I was still in the corps I could quote you all the specs from memory, but I've been out for over a year..... It took 2 guys to do a "quick" swap with the ammo can cause it was so dang heavy.

Harven · Post by **Harven** » 2006-01-10 22:50

Hollywood indeed... It would be a good defense weapon wouldn't it.. for "diggin' in" Just think if there was a squad of em... try to take that flag! And in the end it wouldn't be balanced and all would be lost.

PghJoker · Post by **PghJoker** » 2006-01-11 02:35

Yeah, I dunno about you, but I wouldn't want to hump 4,400 rounds of .308

Noetheinner · Post by **Noetheinner** » 2006-01-11 08:04

UH-1N ammo can can carry 6000rds. So YAY FOR NOT CARRYING IT!