Trench around the VCP?

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-30 00:57

Could we please get the trench back around the VCP in Basrah, as it was in the open beta?

In the OB it was too narrow and people got stuck in it, but a wider one would be nice.
The reason is, that most of the time, when either British/Insurgents attack the VCP, they climb up on the side walls and shoot over the top and throw grenades in.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Molotov's flying over the walls, but the ones throwing them shouldn't be peeking over the wall itself, looking where to throw a nade.

Would also make defending the VCP easier, as you'd only had to watch the entrances for enemy troops.

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2007-10-30 01:01

Great Idea there,weren't we just playing a round of Basrah together???

We had that VCP on lockdown!

!GREAT IDEA!

pasfreak · Post by **pasfreak** » 2007-10-30 01:19

the shovel should be able to spawn trenches.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-30 01:23

Can't modify the terrain in-game, pasfreak, you know that...

DarkTalon · Post by **DarkTalon** » 2007-10-30 01:42

maybe actual trenches, it could be a "first line of defense" and maybe have some static ammo bags MGs etc.

DavidP · Post by **DavidP** » 2007-10-30 03:13

Lol outlawz you really gonna hate me

I'm one of the guys who does that expertly! Sometimes i have a whole squad of insurgents throw molotovs over the wall and re-rm each other with our ammo bags.

Once when i was playing with my buds clanmates who were new to PR, All 6 of us hopped onto a passing pick up truck and headed to vcp, When we got there we just kept throwing molotovs over to the vcp while the truck was circling around it, My god we terrorized the brits.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-10-30 10:03

U all do know that no trenchs are in iraq but the walls are a defence use them then u shot down on them. And those thenchs in Beta were a mistake I think. Cars would drvie in and never come out.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-30 12:18

Yes, the OB trenches we're too narrow, people got stuck in them and had to suicide.
But a wider one would be nice. Or at least reduce the terrain next to the wall, so there's no way you could jump on the first ledge.

MikeDude · Post by **MikeDude** » 2007-10-30 12:49

i never heared of them

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-10-30 18:34

Yes, the OB trenches we're too narrow, people got stuck in them and had to suicide.
But a wider one would be nice. Or at least reduce the terrain next to the wall, so there's no way you could jump on the first ledge.

Then i say YES to this thread.

Wasteland · Post by **Wasteland** » 2007-10-30 18:46

LtSoucy wrote:U all do know that no trenchs are in iraq

Do you read what you type, or does it just kind of flow out through your fingers?

Post by **Deadfast** » 2007-10-30 18:52

I like the idea.
But it would be nicer if you had to dig it yourself. I know there are no dynamic changes of terrain possible in BF2 engine, but I was more thinking about something such as is Kashan's destructible runway, but in reverse. After digging for a while it would "remove" the upper level of sand so a trench would be created. Of course I don't know if this is possible but it would be nice to have it. If not, a simple trench will do enough

BAD BEN · Post by **BAD BEN** » 2007-10-30 21:49

ilike the idea of having an outer trench but i would also like to see and outer fence or barbed wire around the VCP because it's a pain in the bumb if you're trying to defend you can't see over to shot at the enemy

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2007-10-30 22:13

I like this idea, it will allow for a better defence of the VCP for both brits and insurgents

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-30 22:18

Deadfast wrote:I like the idea.
But it would be nicer if you had to dig it yourself. I know there are no dynamic changes of terrain possible in BF2 engine, but I was more thinking about something such as is Kashan's destructible runway, but in reverse. After digging for a while it would "remove" the upper level of sand so a trench would be created. Of course I don't know if this is possible but it would be nice to have it. If not, a simple trench will do enough

Yes, but that would mean, that there already is a trench below, and there's just a static over it, you have to "dig out"

Polka · Post by **Polka** » 2007-10-30 22:43

Sounds like a good idea
Make a poll ? =D

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2007-10-30 22:45

sounds like a good idea

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2007-10-30 23:07

That No trenches in Iraq post was really dumb...

But I'd like too see just the trench around VCP and then some barbedwire around the trench line that can be blown.

youm0nt · Post by **youm0nt** » 2007-10-31 01:29

I didn't know the VCP on Basrah in the open beta had a trench... Whatever though, I'm still up for those trenches though!

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-10-31 01:33

the reason why the trench in the early OB of .6 was removed from around the VCP in basrah was not just cos players where getting stuck, but also big terrain LOD problems where at distances you could see under the hesco barriers etc cos of it and looked really crappy. I dont see the trench being added back in aswell.