Get rid of the damn suppressors.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-01 11:33

Does any one else think that specops and snipers need ordinary handguns not stupind supressed ones seeing as it is a side arm shouldnt the rifle be supresed as well it just anoys me i don't like guns i cant hear and i thought that the military don't used supresors unless on a sniper rifle.

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-01-01 12:48

I think its more to make the classes look and feel more stealthy. I personaly dont really mind wether they go or not. What dose bug me is that they are silenced, despite the fact that the rifles arent, which praticly makes them pointless.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-01 13:02

yeah when you read in the manual " specops equiped with supressed weapons for infiltrating and demolotions" i think weapon would have been better and spec ops don really infiltrate the are elite soldiers not conter terorists.

dawdler · Post by **dawdler** » 2006-01-01 13:03

It would be cooler if the spec ops got a suppressed SMG. It would seperate him from the rest, finally making him special operations instead of a standard-rifleman-in-disguise-but-with-C4 soldier.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-01 13:05

i think C4 should go to engineers and specop have been using M4's for ages.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-01-01 13:47

Hitperson wrote:i think C4 should go to engineers and specop have been using M4's for ages.

ye, engineers should really carry all exsplocives, makes them more valubal to the team, they did in BF42

visaya · Post by **visaya** » 2006-01-01 13:52

i've said this before but I believe both specops and snipers need to be reworked into the mod as they do not currently fit in regular squads. The sniper should be a marksman and the specops has no special edge on an all out war with no artillery or satellite to blow up.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-01 16:40

SpecOps should be removed as it is now, then on a few select maps there should be a faction represented by spec ops. So say you use Green Berets they will have their own medic, marksman, engineer, gunner, rifleman etc.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-01 16:59

ive heard it said before specops are not james bond in uniform they are elite MP's

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-01 17:05

Elite MPs? As in the military police? I'm not sure about that. I'd say that they are more like the edge of a military's sword. They do things most conventional forces can't. The problem with how they are implemented in BF2 is that they aren't usually just a guy in a squad. They usually make up their own squad and fill slots like medic and support with people from their own unit.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-01 17:07

'[R-PUB wrote:BrokenArrow']Elite MPs? As in the military police? I'm not sure about that. I'd say that they are more like the edge of a military's sword. They do things most conventional forces can't. The problem with how they are implemented in BF2 is that they aren't usually just a guy in a squad. They usually make up their own squad and fill slots like medic and support with people from their own unit.

sory that was effectivly what i was trying to say.

if we could have squads chosen from the kit you have that would be better.

Tom#13 · Post by **Tom#13** » 2006-01-01 18:26

I agree with Brokenarrow they should be put on their own map as green berets/seals or sumat

Stu007 · Post by **Stu007** » 2006-01-01 20:07

going a lil off topic now?

I think either the supressors should be added to both weapons sniper rifle and pistol, or be completely removed. Not one or the other.

Tacticsniper815 · Post by **Tacticsniper815** » 2006-01-18 05:33

Hitperson wrote:i thought that the military don't used supresors unless on a sniper rifle.

you ever heard of an M4A1 SOPMOD? the army puts suppressors on that

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-18 09:05

is that airsoft because if it is it may not be real as of yet i havn't found a real M4S

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-01-18 13:34

Im sure the military uses them for special operations that require the element of surprise, although I don't think they would be used very often.

[BiM]Black7 · Post by **[BiM]Black7** » 2006-01-18 13:43

'[R-PUB wrote:BrokenArrow']SpecOps should be removed as it is now, then on a few select maps there should be a faction represented by spec ops. So say you use Green Berets they will have their own medic, marksman, engineer, gunner, rifleman etc.

this idea sounds best for the spec ops future...

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2006-01-18 18:46

Hitperson wrote:is that airsoft because if it is it may not be real as of yet i havn't found a real M4S

Very real, suppressors make CQB more manageable by cutting down the sound in tight spaces. It has the added benefit of reducing a weapons muzzle flash. If the devs do decide to add suppressors to more weapons I hope it sounds better than the typical cliche sounds that are used. They can lowerd the decibles, but still can't get rid of that supersonic crack, unless subsonic ammo is used.

http://www.gem-tech.com/product.html

Once saw a site to a company that made suppressors for machineguns.

Tzefanya · Post by **Tzefanya** » 2006-01-18 19:14

I think by 'MP' he meant military personnel.

Eagle · Post by **Eagle** » 2006-01-19 06:07

visaya wrote:I believe both specops and snipers need to be reworked into the mod as they do not currently fit in regular squads.

I agree. One of the two could have a target laser pointer (on maps with planes) and the Spec Ops should definitely carry an MP5 silenced. This would even everything out a lot more. I can't think of anything for the sniper, except for maybe the ability to detect clays, mines, and C4 visually rather than the skull and crossbones lighting up on his HUD.

The sniper should be a bit like a spotter, with a higher awareness of his surroundinings, he should be able to reveal enemy explosives on the 3D map to the rest of the squad, making him a valuable asset.