Chopper optics

Darksyde024 · Post by **Darksyde024** » 2007-11-21 18:26

Please make my X button work in gunner seat.

Tanks are better at downing Air than anti air is..

And ya i know you can fish with TV missiles but thats a skill you shouldnt really need to use

In "reality" and i do use the term losely, we all know tanks go boom from miles out.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-11-21 18:58

are you suggesting a zoom to the TV guided missils? if so you should post this in the sugestion forum

Darksyde024 · Post by **Darksyde024** » 2007-11-21 19:04

Im asking why can't chopper have optics... not just for TV missiles but also for observer view and gunner view.

it would be nice to have to set manual ranges on your guns also.. but im not sure if thats something this engine can do?

<1sk>Headshot · Post by **<1sk>Headshot** » 2007-11-21 19:26

Explain a bit more clearly. The cannon on the helicopter has optics - press 'c'.

If this isn't what you mean..

Yes "fishing" as you called it is unrealistic, but making the view distance big enough so that an optical zoom on TV missiles could actually be used would probably make most peoples PCs start to drop FPS radically.

The helicopter doesn't need any more improvement, its the players. Don't fly with someone you haven't before and expect amazing results. Also, different tactics are needed on different maps.

If you're stupid enough to go within view distance of enemies, remember one thing, they can see you.. If you hover about too long you are mincemeat.

Darksyde024 · Post by **Darksyde024** » 2007-11-21 19:30

You know how armor can press X for a zoomed in view with their guns? Thats what id like to see in the chopper gunner position.

<1sk>Headshot · Post by **<1sk>Headshot** » 2007-11-21 19:35

Look at the start of my post, you press 'C' to zoom in on cannon.

Post by **Pride** » 2007-11-21 19:37

yes, press 'c' when you are on the cannon view

TV's dont have zoom, as its not needed, for obvious reasons.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-11-21 20:42

TV need to be removed and replaced by lazer guided missils (hellfires , atakas ,etc ) , choppers NEED an overhaul .

Darksyde024 · Post by **Darksyde024** » 2007-11-21 20:46

Indeed. Tanks need to fear choppers, not the other way around. IMO TV guided missles from attack choppers is the only thing vanilla left.

And of course i love this mod an in no way am i assaulting the work of the DEVS as they have abviously made a great great mod, in which i am thankful for.

Teek · Post by **Teek** » 2007-11-21 22:43

A chopper can kill a Tank with 1 shot from out of view range with no hope of retaliation, I don't know about you but if I'm in a tank, I fear choppers.

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2007-11-21 23:06

Just fly smart and tanks will fear you.

Darksyde024 · Post by **Darksyde024** » 2007-11-21 23:43

the point is, you should still have to fly smart whether you could zoom in or not.

And if the goal is being realistic, Helo's shouldnt realy have to fear tanks at all..

In fact, someone show some real world data on the last chopper taken down with a 120mm round..

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-11-22 01:07

Waaah_Wah wrote:Just fly smart and tanks will fear you.

thats not the point , the point is chopper dont have a realistic armament , TV guided missils ARE NOT used in choppers like the cobra, apache and mi28 .

GruAncH · Post by **GruAncH** » 2007-11-22 01:45

Teek wrote:A chopper can kill a Tank with 1 shot from out of view range with no hope of retaliation, I don't know about you but if I'm in a tank, I fear choppers.

I agree nothing worse than knowing an expert heli combo are flying high in the sky, you just saw a team tank nuked from the heavens and the start to sweat search the skys then BOOM it's all over and you dont even know where it came from.

Unfortunately fishing is a throwback to BF2V.
It would be interesting to see missile lock added before they can be fired so they have to source the target get lock before the can fire and then they still have to guide it?

Just a theory

danthemanbuddy · Post by **danthemanbuddy** » 2007-11-22 03:47

Darksyde024 wrote:the point is, you should still have to fly smart whether you could zoom in or not.

And if the goal is being realistic, Helo's shouldnt realy have to fear tanks at all..

In fact, someone show some real world data on the last chopper taken down with a 120mm round..

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1owtv_idf-training_tech

watch from after the halfway mark. Enjoy

Merkava vs helo merkava wins

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-11-22 04:55

danthemanbuddy wrote:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1owtv_idf-training_tech

watch from after the halfway mark. Enjoy

Merkava vs helo merkava wins

Merkava vs unmanned helicopter drone, Merkva wins

? Against an attack helicopter which is beyond the main cannon's range? I think the helicopter would win. If however, the helicopter was unaware of the tank and wandered in the tank's range, the tank saw the helicopter before the helicopter saw the tank then the tank would win.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-11-22 05:09

Laser guided = Faster Missiles = What PR team tried to do before, but it was way to hard to control it at such speeds "TV Guided"

LeoBloom. · Post by **LeoBloom.** » 2007-11-22 05:31

What is fishing?

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-11-22 05:41

Swe_Olsson wrote:Laser guided = Faster Missiles = What PR team tried to do before, but it was way to hard to control it at such speeds "TV Guided"

no, laser guided= lock able missil= more power to the chopper = real life .

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-11-22 14:15

the TV missiles are just fine. The only thing you need is some skill and a good pilot thats what its all about. Also if you are stupid enough not to fear a chopper in a tank seat youre gonna be dead pretty soon.