Some additional pilot controls in transport choppers?

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 01:19

Hey guys; we all know Vehicle VoIP would be AMAZING so you can scream at the idiot on the Blackhawk gun to GTFO - But we also know that's impossible due to hardcoding.

Now I'm just wondering; but first, let me explain my reasons for bringing this up... Today, I lasted pretty much ALL ROUND on Jabal Al whatever (the one with the W/E Beach and Dam, US vs. MEC) being a well-coordinated dropshiper pilot in the Blackhawk; ferrying my squad and other squads constantly to new locations.

Towards the end of the game, I ended up crashing into a mountain whilst on a 'stealth' mission with a squad, because I was busy typing (thus no chopper control) to the idiot on the gun to stop blasting it into the sky and giving away our position.

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Would it be possible to add a key that the pilot of transport choppers can press to 'lock/unlock' firing modes on the cannons? (A bit like permission to open fire from higher command etc), because it's annoying enough when some c*ckend is firing aimlessly in your ear, and even moreso when you're trying to go undetected, but instead end up crashing because you were telling him to STFU!

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My other idea is something I've had since the start of vBF2; would it be possible to make the Black Hawk doors open/closeable to protect the crew inside, and maybe add some increased manouverbility to the 'Hawk? I know for one I'd prefer to be behind a metalic door when being a BH passenger, than having the chance to fire back on the squad using small arms fire against the crew.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-12-27 01:23

to make the doors move you should need a new model ,then skin it ,then import it, then code it and then testit , etc .

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-12-27 01:23

Heskey wrote: ----

Would it be possible to add a key that the pilot of transport choppers can press to 'lock/unlock' firing modes on the cannons? (A bit like permission to open fire from higher command etc), because it's annoying enough when some c*ckend is firing aimlessly in your ear, and even moreso when you're trying to go undetected, but instead end up crashing because you were telling him to STFU!

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Sorry, has been suggested before

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/black- ... 29114.html

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote: Having the pilot need to press a button to arm the miniguns is a step that isn't really conducive to gameplay. Should we have everyone request permission to fire or get rules of engagement from the player who is the commander, then? I can see having the miniguns not function or be inaccessible until the pilot is in the seat, though.

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 01:27

Citing RoE is taking it a bit far; I'm merely suggesting locking the cannons when in flight to prevent idiots bouncing on the seats going "YOOOHOOO! WE'RE HERE MR. AA!!!!"

As for making a new BH model with sliding doors; PR itself is of course a mod, with a lot of new vehicles added etc; if the Devs have the time on their hands, wouldn't this be a positive step?

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-12-27 01:28

As a fellow transport pilot I feel your pain, but I don't think that it's ever going to happen.

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 01:33

Ah well

PS. Did I hear vehicles will retain their minimap?

I don't want to crash due to having to access CAPSLOCK map to see the extraction marker.

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-12-27 01:49

Yes, vehicles will still have a minimap.

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2007-12-27 01:51

Lol i was playing with you on that map. We had about 3-4 ppl trying to tell those guys not to fire those damn guns. Didnt really help much..

Post by **Nickbond592** » 2007-12-27 02:36

played the same round you did today (and beat you to top chopper spot) doing exactly what you were

and to top it all of i crashed into a mountain aswell

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 02:46

Yeah; I lost a lot of points from people trying to enter my blackhawk through the floor.

"Never under-estimate human stupidity"

Sadist_Cain · Post by **Sadist_Cain** » 2007-12-27 03:09

[R-MOD]Masaq wrote: Until then, I just put the Heli into a hover at high altitude over land and tell my passengers via teamchat that if they fire the guns senselessly again I'll bail out - and point out that I'm the only guy with a 'chute.

Do that next time!

you know your squad will always come to give you extraction

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 03:11

Sadist_Cain wrote:Do that next time! you know your squad will always come to give you extraction

That's actually a bloody good idea; would give your guys something to work for - "KEEP DA FOOKEN PI0T ALIEV!!!111"

Weren't you summoned to bed like 3 hours ago? If not, GET ON TEAMSPEAK.

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2007-12-27 03:52

The miniguns on the BH are a distraction. If you're dumb enough to shoot them, you're gonna die. They are in no way actually useful, except for looking cool and maybe killing a long infantryman. Don't look like a noob, don't fire the miniguns!
As far as sliding doors it would simply lock people in. True BH sliding doors are barely protection against small caliber rounds. A BH is designed to avoid enemy AA, not really defend its occupants. Quick in, quick out, fast movement over unsecured terrain. Adding doors would be neat, but really would only protect against sidearms and some rifles (mainly 5.56 rifles, as opposed to 7.62), which you shouldn't be moving slow enough to allow your passengers to be sniped by. Occasionally you are going to lose passengers to volume fire, but your average infantryman isn't a threat to your occupants.

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 2007-12-27 09:48

77SiCaRiO77 wrote:to make the doors move you should need a new model ,then skin it ,then import it, then code it and then testit , etc .

i would like to see a new '''black'' hawk model, instead of this ''sea'' hawk bf2v model though

sea hawk:

blackhawk

Ablack77 · Post by **Ablack77** » 2007-12-27 09:59

The only way around this Heskey is to a 360 and head back to where you took off from.
Once you've landed, explain to your passengers that the next time someone shoots randomly off into the distance and gives away the BH's position,
That your next maneuver will be to dive the chopper (as hard as you can) directly into the surface below you at the time.

It a bit of a pain and time consuming but people usually learn fast that your not going to put up with ****.

Ablack77 · Post by **Ablack77** » 2007-12-27 10:02

Actually R-MOD Masdaq's idea is way better.

Sergeant_Banner · Post by **Sergeant_Banner** » 2007-12-27 11:45

Yep, i can say that the idiots on that round cost the US a valuble asset

Maybe if the Miniguns were unlocked by default, and the pilot has the option to lock/unlock them mid flight, if locked during landing and pilot gets out, the should revert to unlocked.

After 3-4 T&T Members were "politely" asking the said idiots to cease fire, the rest of the team decided to help to, but they carried on firing.

Even the R-XXX members playing told them !

Disrespectful lil' w**kers

Sarge

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 12:12

I think it's a fair enough point tbh that you tell them you'll nose-dive if they don't stop f*cking around - Problem is though, I feel it'd give you a bad reputation for

1.) Destroying an asset
2.) Killing 'innocent' crew members.

Death_dx · Post by **Death_dx** » 2007-12-27 12:53

I'm liking the bail out idea, of course you could just land and teamkill them.

Anyway instead of doors how about moving the seats so they're more covered. It's hardly ever useful to have a rifleman shooting from a BH.