Alternate to the M16s

Odct_Jolly · Post by **Odct_Jolly** » 2006-02-11 18:23

I would like to have the options of using a C7A2 instead of an m16 in urban maps. The C7A2 (standard canadian weaopon based on the m16) is fully automatic and has an Elcan C79 3.4x power optical sight, IMO this would greatly help in FIBUA

Odct_Jolly · Post by **Odct_Jolly** » 2006-02-11 18:23

oops...
FIBUA= Fighting in built up areas

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-02-11 18:30

Check media gallery ;] It's ready and waiting for skin&release...
But i doubt that we will find it in next few PRM rels...

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-02-11 18:32

Welcome to the forums, Jolly. You'll be happy to know that the C7 and C8 will be options in certain UK classes, but we're not using them for the US team. Check out our media gallery section, as it would be nice to have someone who has experience with the weapons give some feedback on the models.

There will be other sight options for the M16 and M4 eventually.

We're also familiar with FIBUA. Here in the states it's called MOUT (Military Operations on Urban Terrain), but in the UK and Canada FIBUA is used.

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-02-11 18:34

I guess you'll give them to the UK Spec Op guys? As I've heard about the SAS and Marines using them.

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-02-11 18:37

SEXY !
http://realitymod.com/~realitym/forum/s ... .php?t=940

http://realitymod.com/~realitym/forum/s ... .php?t=945

One of teh sexiest gunz eveh!

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker - u play to introduce these beauties in final 1.0 rel? Or sooner? Or u don't have idea when yet? ;]

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-02-11 18:38

Peter-SAS wrote:I guess you'll give them to the UK Spec Op guys? As I've heard about the SAS and Marines using them.

Correct. The SAS, Parachute Regiment / 16th Air Assault Brigade Pathfinders, Royal Marines Brigade Patrol Group and SBS (and possibly Fleet Protection Group, as well) all have used the M16/M4 and C7/C8 at one time or another.

Rifleman wrote:[R-DEV]Eddie Baker - u play to introduce these beauties in final 1.0 rel? Or sooner? Or u don't have idea when yet? ;]

Probably not until initial release, since that's when the UK forces will be in.

Odct_Jolly · Post by **Odct_Jolly** » 2006-02-11 18:38

You'll be happy to know that the C7 and C8 will be options in certain UK classes, but we're not using them for the US team. Check out our media gallery section, as it would be nice to have someone who has experience with the weapons give some feedback on the models.

Ok sorry didn't look at the media much

http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/2_2.asp
Good reference for the c7 with images

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-02-11 20:52

i would also love to see m-72's and carl gustav's

asiLLasiTgets · Post by **asiLLasiTgets** » 2006-02-11 23:52

Hitperson wrote:i would also love to see m-72's and carl gustav's

Carl Gustav the Submachine Gun? or the Carl Gustav Anti-Tank weapon? Either way they are both good... I had a lot of fun shooting the carl gustav sub machine gun.

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-02-12 00:08

Pretty sure both the 72 and Gustav have been replaced in the US military, or are being replaced.

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2006-02-12 01:17

Thought the Rangers still used the Carl Gustav for breeching. Plus I think I've seen blurbs somewhere about the M72 getting a redesigned warhead.

Odct_Jolly · Post by **Odct_Jolly** » 2006-02-12 03:26

The Carl G is a recoilless anti-tank weapon, think of it as a big caliber rifle

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-02-12 07:09

NikovK wrote:Pretty sure both the 72 and Gustav have been replaced in the US military, or are being replaced.

The "Goose" is still in service with the 75th Ranger Regiment and other USSOCOM forces; some infantry officers have said they would like regular forces to get them, too. It's official designation is the M3 Ranger Anti-Armor Weapon System (RAAWS) or Multi-role Antipersonnel/Anti-Armor Weapon System (MAAWS). It is found in the weapons platoons of Ranger rifle companies, and they've been using it for quite a while; since the M67 90mm recoilless was retired in the mid-to-late 1980s.

As for the 66mm M72, it is making a comeback due to its weight and collapsibility as well as a redesigned warhead from Talley. A few have made it over to Iraq.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-02-13 16:11

Odct_Jolly wrote:The Carl G is a recoilless anti-tank weapon, think of it as a big caliber rifle

calliber the size of your head almost.

Campez · Post by **Campez** » 2006-02-13 16:19

Odct_Jolly wrote:I would like to have the options of using a C7A2 instead of an m16 in urban maps. The C7A2 (standard canadian weaopon based on the m16) is fully automatic and has an Elcan C79 3.4x power optical sight, IMO this would greatly help in FIBUA

The danish army also got it:

http://forsvaret.dk/HMAK/Materiel/V%C3%A5ben/

Issent it that one they call a M95 im not sure but i rhink it is a canadian rifle

Odct_Jolly · Post by **Odct_Jolly** » 2006-02-14 02:44

^Camper^DK wrote:The danish army also got it:

http://forsvaret.dk/HMAK/Materiel/V%C3%A5ben/

Issent it that one they call a M95 im not sure but i rhink it is a canadian rifle

looks more like an m16 because the c7 and c8 dont have handles/iront sight on the top over the reciver, the have a flat top rail

BAT.Nemesis · Post by **BAT.Nemesis** » 2006-02-14 13:10

its not fibua no more, its OBUA lol operations in built up areas, i got ripped a new *** hole for saying it wrong b 4 xmas

beta · Post by **beta** » 2006-02-14 22:27

looks more like an m16 because the c7 and c8 dont have handles/iront sight on the top over the reciver, the have a flat top rail

Well, the C7 actually does have a handle sight, it's the C7A1 variant that has the Elcan sight. Also, the C7A2 has the Elcan, along with a telescopic buttstock, also some of them also got some funky paintjobs ...

C7A2:
http://www.geocities.com/pipeline/ridge/1470/c7a2e.jpg

As for the C8, I'm not as sure.

Campez · Post by **Campez** » 2006-02-15 07:32

That looks kinda ugly