Ejod and Tanks

Fess|3-5| · Post by **Fess|3-5|** » 2008-03-17 23:05

In the latest patch, Tanks were removed from Ejod Desert in order to emphasis Mechanized Infantry. What if, rather than remove the Tanks altogether, we just narrowed the boundaries to the City Limits? It would get very interesting forcing Infantry and Tanks to work so closely together. Some of my best .5 memories are short range Tank battles within the Ejod city limits. In short, please bring back Tanks to this great map!

Farks · Post by **Farks** » 2008-03-17 23:39

Or at least take a bulldozer and flatten out those friggin hills. Why do city maps in BF2 always have to surrounded by hils?! Pointless stuff that ruins good urban combat because some 1337 kids camps up there to get an "awesome" K/D ratio.

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2008-03-18 00:44

Lol, poor 1337 kids

if there are people up in the hills firing down at the city...use the cover and own them.

Fess|3-5| · Post by **Fess|3-5|** » 2008-03-18 01:53

[R-MOD]dunehunter wrote:Lol, poor 1337 kids if there are people up in the hills firing down at the city...use the cover and own them.

Exactly.

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2008-03-18 02:00

Farks wrote:Why do city maps in BF2 always have to surrounded by hils?!

To avoid creating and texturing surrounding terrain probably

VipersGhost · Post by **VipersGhost** » 2008-03-18 02:07

The fish bowl effect does get old, but I like the strategical value of the "high ground"...it just has to be less cliche.

[uBp]Irish · Post by **[uBp]Irish** » 2008-03-18 02:20

question is why do all good city maps never have tanks. :/

ejod...archer...

basrah is the only exception, but still.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-03-18 02:47

Tanks are well suited to Urban combat, are they?

[uBp]Irish · Post by **[uBp]Irish** » 2008-03-18 03:38

exactly what i'm saying.... more urban maps need tanks..

Wolfe · Post by **Wolfe** » 2008-03-18 04:51

Removal of the tanks has made this map worse..

not because they're gone, but because there are now FOUR apc's. So instead of 2 tanks on each side slaughtering infantry from the hills, FOUR apcs on each side are slaughtering infantry from the hills. And a couple of guys with the HAT having the times of their lives.

With so many players devoted to 8 apc's and being countered by HAT's, it leaves fewer infantry than ever to fight in the city.

IMO, this map should START with 1 or 2 tanks. No apcs. Squish the boundaries making it impossible for tanks to fire from the hills, thus forcing them into the city. That would make an exciting, intense, and classic infantry/tank mutual support situation.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-03-18 10:51

'[uBp wrote:Irish;631822']exactly what i'm saying.... more urban maps need tanks..

I was being sarcastic. Tanks don't do urban combat well.

DeltaFart · Post by **DeltaFart** » 2008-03-18 13:18

But it is reality, they do have to deal with it

[uBp]Irish · Post by **[uBp]Irish** » 2008-03-18 13:23

EG to stop playing with my feelings...

Farks · Post by **Farks** » 2008-03-18 13:38

[R-MOD]dunehunter wrote:Lol, poor 1337 kids if there are people up in the hills firing down at the city...use the cover and own them.

Yes, but it removes the focus on taking control of the city.

Farks · Post by **Farks** » 2008-03-18 13:39

Ragni<RangersPL> wrote:To avoid creating and texturing surrounding terrain probably

And you don't have to do that when creating hills?

Post by **Spec** » 2008-03-18 14:24

Not if (like in vanilla maps) the city is the only place to fight in. Then you add a death-area around it and noone from inside can see that there's nothing behind the hills.

When you look at EJOD, i there is no surrounding terrain. The green stuff around the map i mean, if it's still there.

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2008-03-18 14:29

'[uBp wrote:Irish;632039']EG to stop playing with my feelings...

Thats exactly how i feel when ever he's around...

seriously, i think that the tanks were horrible on this map. Back when this map had tanks, i hated this map and i would never play it because the map was to spammy, but now i think the map has gotten better.

[uBp]Irish · Post by **[uBp]Irish** » 2008-03-18 15:49

i'm still voting for maps with large urban areas to have tanks.

and this doesnt count for basrah. most of the time they never even touch the city limits.

billdan · Post by **billdan** » 2008-03-18 18:09

imo both the map and the city of ejod was too small for tanks
i do think 8 apcs is a lot. there should be 2 for each side at most

ive said this in other threads but one thing that bothers me about maps (except zatar) with vehicles is that apcs/tanks and above all the CMDR support truck are all used more often and enthusiastically than the Humvees/Vodniks/Nanjing

I rarely ever see vodniks or humvees inside Ejod city. squads drive to ruins or gardens in them, but abandon it once inside.

DeltaFart · Post by **DeltaFart** » 2008-03-18 19:05

will admit that is something that happens alot, only on zatar is there ever really HMMWV around, since thats the only method of movement at some points, and there are no cities like other maps