MiG-21 for Militia

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Post by Bob_Marley »

Dragonfire43560 wrote:I think the MiG is the only thing debatable. You guys cant argue that Militia needs a hind though.
Yes I can. Helicopters are expensive and complex to maintain, especially advanced gunships with complex fire control and avionics systems.

A more fitting helo would be something like the Mi-2 "Hoplite" light utility helicopter with cannon & rockets.
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HINDS are cheap to maintain. For Gods sakes they were made in the cold war era where soviet military mentality was "Make it easy to use and cheap to maintain". The same applies with the MiG21.
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Dragonfire43560 wrote:HINDS are cheap to maintain. For Gods sakes they were made in the cold war era where soviet military mentality was "Make it easy to use and cheap to maintain". The same applies with the MiG21.
yes theres "soviet cheap" and then theres "3rd world militia cheap" their 2 very differnt things. no matter how cheap it is to maintain certain aircraft, its typically out of reach of most militias. hell even hezbollah, which is probly the most well funded militia {by iran} in existance doesnt even have choppers or jets, the best thing they have are pilotless drones. so i seriously doubt any chechen type milita can afford anything that flies.
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The militia use T-72s though. Just think of the gas costs it takes to maintain it. Tanks IIRC get less than 1 mile per gallon. If they can afford tanks , they can afford to maintain a Hind or two.
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Dragonfire43560 wrote:The militia use T-72s though.
Do they?
I only know of the T-62. ;)
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Post by Dragonfire43560 »

my bad thats what i meant. Well the T-62 is even heavier and more complex than the T-72 IIRC so it probably is more expensive to maintain :D
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charliegrs wrote:yes theres "soviet cheap" and then theres "3rd world militia cheap" their 2 very differnt things. no matter how cheap it is to maintain certain aircraft, its typically out of reach of most militias. hell even hezbollah, which is probly the most well funded militia {by iran} in existance doesnt even have choppers or jets, the best thing they have are pilotless drones. so i seriously doubt any chechen type milita can afford anything that flies.
They would if they could. Israelis would just wtfpwn their aircraft tho so why bother.
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Dragonfire43560 wrote:my bad thats what i meant. Well the T-62 is even heavier and more complex than the T-72 IIRC so it probably is more expensive to maintain :D
how is an older tank more complex than a newer tank i dont get it. and besides, a tank is obviously much easier to maintain than a chopper or jet. militias like the taliban and i think the chechens have had tanks, although not in great numbers. older tanks have diesel engines, manual firing and loading systems, and are built to last forever. and most importantly, they dont fly. aircraft are much more complex, and they have to be maintained perfectly because they are flying machines and go through extreme stresses.

regardless, like i said earlier this has been suggested a million times already, and im pretty sure the devs have shot it down everytime.
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Post by Dragonfire43560 »

"how is an older tank more complex than a newer tank i dont get it. and besides, a tank is obviously much easier to maintain than a chopper or jet. militias like the taliban and i think the chechens have had tanks, although not in great numbers. older tanks have diesel engines, manual firing and loading systems, and are built to last forever. and most importantly, they dont fly. aircraft are much more complex, and they have to be maintained perfectly because they are flying machines and go through extreme stresses.

regardless, like i said earlier this has been suggested a million times already, and im pretty sure the devs have shot it down everytime."


Beeause newer tanks have different purposes. The T-72 was meant to be mass produced , which is why its really light and lightly armored. COmpare it to the T-64, which is older but is better in pretty much every way. Its just not as common because it is more expensive to maintain.

The T-62 is not better than the T72 unlike the T-64, but is is heavier and a bigger gas guzzler. Think of it like this, old muscle cars of the 70s use up much mroe gas and are harder to maintain than current compact sedans. Its because the agenda has changed and priorities in design change.


And just because they fly doesnt automatically mean they are ridiculously hard to maintain. Hinds are incredibly simple for a helicopter and if the dirt poor country of Afghanistan uses them in its airforce, then i think militia can.
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Post by Eddie Baker »

Been suggested before. Not likely.
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