Will this problem be addressed in .8?

3===SPECTER===3 · Post by **3===SPECTER===3** » 2008-04-27 02:47

Ive searched around everywhere and have only got mixed remedies for the md5tool mismatch bull****. This thread isn't me asking for one, if it was i would have posted in the correct area. My only question is if the DEV's are going to adress this problem that alot of players have. I know how the porblem was caused and i know the DEV's intention's were good but now this a big problem on hand that i think needs to be addressed. Im currently switching to FH2/FH1 for the time being because i can no longer play PR and theres no definate way to fix it because its different for everybody. Please tell me this is being adressed by the DEVs because as of now im no longer able to play PR MP.

maz.uk · Post by **maz.uk** » 2008-04-27 08:18

i think your right specter and there is more things that need changing to fill the servers again ,i have around 40 members and only a handfull will play pr now i really hope 0.8 has some thing good for us all

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2008-04-27 09:39

well check the quote in my sig and you will see what i think of what you just said.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-27 09:46

The md5 problems are fixable by the user.
It's just the amount of effort that has to be done that varies.

M4nicMin3r · Post by **M4nicMin3r** » 2008-04-27 10:53

maz.uk wrote:i think your right specter and there is more things that need changing to fill the servers again ,i have around 40 members and only a handfull will play pr now i really hope 0.8 has some thing good for us all

Just wondering..., what are their reasons behind not playing PR anymore/rarely? The clan im in plays PR sporadically now, theyve taken to playing other games more since the .7 release. I hear such reasons for not playing as md5 mismatch,gameplay,other games offer more "realism", graphically old,server/map crashes too often etc etc etc. Just wondering if the reasons are the same?

maz.uk · Post by **maz.uk** » 2008-04-27 12:06

M4nicMin3r wrote:Just wondering..., what are their reasons behind not playing PR anymore/rarely? The clan im in plays PR sporadically now, theyve taken to playing other games more since the .7 release. I hear such reasons for not playing as md5 mismatch,gameplay,other games offer more "realism", graphically old,server/map crashes too often etc etc etc. Just wondering if the reasons are the same?

yep the same

one of the big reasons with my guys is the bullet deviation system now its turned pr to run and gun with prone dive (vanila),before 0.7 you played slower and with care and your shots hit not like now, were a trained soilder cant hit a guy in the back from 50 yards with out them turning and rolling around and killing you with one shot ,we to have been looking at other games to move onto, i have played pr for several years now and never seen the server so empty i realy hope 0.8 brings back the buzz to pr and soon

M4nicMin3r · Post by **M4nicMin3r** » 2008-04-27 12:25

Chrs maz for the info...,I thought it was just a boredom thing in our clan that was causing this. It seems theres a wider problem with similar reasons causing it.

I think it would be interesting to note ( even if its just for the devs to possibly address ) if any other clans have the same problems with players moving to other games because of patch changes?

Post by **Masaq** » 2008-04-27 12:53

Not really. T&T always play other games; currently we're into Lock On and Raven Shield alongside our PR.

Why would anyone ever play only one game? That's gauranteeing that you're going to get fed up with it eventually.

Variety is the spice of life; don't blame the game for becoming boring, blame your clan members for not enjoying a varied gaming diet

M4nicMin3r · Post by **M4nicMin3r** » 2008-04-27 13:08

'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq;663531']Not really. T&T always play other games; currently we're into Lock On and Raven Shield alongside our PR.

Why would anyone ever play only one game? That's gauranteeing that you're going to get fed up with it eventually.

Variety is the spice of life; don't blame the game for becoming boring, blame your clan members for not enjoying a varied gaming diet

yeh our clan has always been into other games too..., im just trying to establish if the reason for playing PR less are the changes that have been made or down to more bugs introduced.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2008-04-27 13:42

A lot of .:iGi:. members gave up also on PR, although quite a few still play.

And I get very frustrated at times, infantry is no more fun, spawns are too long, some imbalances, the incredible stupidity of some random pubs, lack of communication etc...

Most of the time I find myself trying to play PR, unless I am lucky playing with a few friends on a good team, I go and play around on AIX.

Post by **Rudd** » 2008-04-27 13:47

Alex6714 wrote:A lot of .:iGi:. members gave up also on PR, although quite a few still play.

Yeah, you guys have reopened recruitment cuz of this aint ya?
I'd join up

but my uni internet sux.

MD5 is probably fixable by the user, and the number of computer literate ppl here is probably higher than most online gaming communities, but so many ppl can't be bothered with the hassle. I remember when Joint Ops started having its major bugs I couldn't be bothered with that anymore- moved on to vBF2. Thankfully PR came along to fill the void.

hall0 · Post by **hall0** » 2008-04-27 14:58

'[R-PUB wrote:bosco;663404']The md5 problems are fixable by the user.
It's just the amount of effort that has to be done that varies.

True but i hate it to start PR with the normal exe, because i hate the nonworking serverbrowser. Hope the shaderfix comes with 0.8.

BroCop · Post by **BroCop** » 2008-04-27 15:03

[R-MOD]Masaq wrote:Not really. T&T always play other games; currently we're into Lock On and Raven Shield alongside our PR.

Woah glad to know im not the only one who plays Raven Shield around here

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-27 15:08

hall0 wrote:True but i hate it to start PR with the normal exe, because i hate the nonworking serverbrowser. Hope the shaderfix comes with 0.8.

Huh? The serverbrowser works fine, at least for me.
And I don't know what 'shaderfix' you're talking about...

hall0 · Post by **hall0** » 2008-04-27 15:32

Bosco than you are the only guy who had never problems with the great bf2 server browser

The problem with the md5 stuff starts with the shaders came with 0.75 if the devs can fix this the md5 problem would be also solved becouse we wouldnt need the server md5 checks anymore.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-27 15:34

The md5 problem is client side, and the shaders won't be removed because of that...

Post by **Rudd** » 2008-04-27 15:38

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:The md5 problem is client side, and the shaders won't be removed because of that...

Edit- I swear I read ur post as "what can the devs do?" or equivalent???? I think I'm going insane, anyway what they can do is...
A sticky with a condensed version of kilroy0097's thread and any other thread with pertinent information would be a start. If its offical ppl are more likely to use it and trust it, and also it would help every1 find the info.

I cant think of anything else the devs can do.
Unless FH2 had these problems and sorted them? (I don't know, havent played FH2 much)

Antonious_Bloc · Post by **Antonious_Bloc** » 2008-04-27 15:39

What is this md5 thing?

Does it stand for something or is it a bug that some people get?

Scot · Post by **Scot** » 2008-04-27 15:41

bosco aint alone, never had any problems with the server browser or anything, only trouble was forgetting to start PR as an admin with Vista.

Post by **Rudd** » 2008-04-27 15:41

Antonious_Bloc wrote:What is this md5 thing?

Does it stand for something or is it a bug that some people get?

its a shader bug, usually its caused by trying to circumvent the shader effects involved in suppression by using the community tab ingame, but some ppl get it for other reasons.