What is your opinion on the BF2 engine?

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.

What is your opinion on the BF2 gaming engine?

Love It Unhealthily
20
5%
Like It
80
19%
It's O.K.
191
45%
Dislike It
72
17%
Hate it With a Fiery Passion
46
11%
Don't Care
11
3%
 
Total votes: 420

Chuc
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Post by Chuc »

Maybe try incorporating more ginger into your diet ;)

Personally the BF2 engine is due for retirement, however its just that finding a viable alternative that's virtually impossible..
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Masaq
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Post by Masaq »

aliceaod wrote:I love BF2 because it's the only game that doesn't make me want to hurl all over my keyboard. I've tried numerous other games and BF2 is the only one doesn't give me motion sickness.

I tried PR tonight for the first time and I had a ball! Love it.

If anyone else suffers from this, or you know someone who does, please pass this on: I recently watched an episode of MythBusters where they were seeking a remedy for motion sickness that doesn't have any side-effects (dramamine, for instance, just makes me sleepy). They discovered that the centuries old use of ginger is the best thing going. They gave Adam a ginger pill and it worked. Normally Adam would get really sick after being in the puke chair for 3 minutes. After taking a ginger pill, he was able to be in it for a half hour and still no sickness and the best part was no side effects!

Someone once recommended it to me, but I thought it was just some "herbal" thing that probably wouldn't really work, but after seeing Mythbusters, I'll be heading to the health food section and getting a big fat jar of ginger pills...and then load up all those games that made me sick in the past. ;) BOOYAH! Look out boys, granny will be on a rampage now!

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zangoo
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Post by zangoo »

well if ea was to retire the bf2 engine to the the pr devs, it could be given a new life. i think if the pr devs were to get the engine, we could have a game that would pwn all, plus they could make money off it.
aliceaod
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Post by aliceaod »

Why, TY Masaq!

It's so funny once my teammates find out I'm a grandmother... and funnier when I come in first of second place for my team. To quote the commander, "My grandmother could do better!" He's right! LOL

Well, the 550 mg ginger pills WORKED! I played BF 2142 for quite a while, but I find the excessive camera-bob and swaying disorienting. I tried Medal of Honor...same thing. Call of Duty 4 is awesome, I think I'll be able to handle that one with flying colors.

However, Battlefield 2 is my first choice for an FPS and Project Reality RULES! Look for CAF ll_ALICE_ll on the battlefield some time and if you ever want to beat up on an old lady...just try me.

Oh, thought I'd include a video link of me playing cos I know a lot of the kids don't believe old ladies like to play too! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1VsFeQCqZk

Bring it on whippersnappers!
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Reason: included youtube link
unlocks_r_emo
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Post by unlocks_r_emo »

the bf2 engine is actually quite good, look at how old the thing is and look at what has been done with it, and considering DICE is owned by EA it's pretty damned good for an EA owned company.
Sabre_tooth_tigger
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Post by Sabre_tooth_tigger »

When I get lag in bf2 I know its pretty much the same for everyone where as in the hl2 engine it tends to favour a few players which is especially unfair in something like css, so on that factor alone I'd rate bf2 engine over it.

EA wont open up the bf2 engine to third parties because they know it would be too much competetion for anything they could create.
Its easy to spruce up the graphics and so on but to move on a generation in gameplay and other deeper factors it's going to be a while imo
AnRK
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Post by AnRK »

It does a very good job considering what it has to do. Having planes, armour and infantry, spread over a pretty large area, in pretty reasonable detail graphically and physics-wise considering the scale of everything, pulling all that off with pretty minimal lag is quite a feat. Because of all that I don't see why it's slagged off so much.

Obviously the modding section has something to be desired, but that's not really got anything to do with the quality of the BF2 engine. But I'll rip into that 'cos that's the only **** thing about using the engine if you ask me, even then the PR team has achieved alot with it.
Defiyur
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Post by Defiyur »

Sabre_tooth_tigger wrote:
EA wont open up the bf2 engine to third parties because they know it would be too much competetion for anything they could create.
Yeah they know skilled, devoted people would make the ultimate tactical FPS and make EAs next installment of kiddie shit wrapped in pretty bow look exactly like what it is. As far as what a good possible engine for PR one I think is really good is the quake 4 engine. I played the demo of quake wars enemy territory and the engine does pretty much everything you'd need for a tactical shooter + it looks astonishing. There's leaning, aircraft, you can shoot individual wheels out. really great engine IMO.
The Crimson Major
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Post by The Crimson Major »

It's glitchy as hell and blatantly unfinished. Despite this it remains good.
Darkwind166
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Post by Darkwind166 »

The BF2 engine is great for its multiplayer aspect.. With such large maps and large numbers of players in the same server together is hard to find even today.. But in a modding aspect it can be a pain. I have tried doing some minor modding and I ran into multiple problems with the engine. Also, the Bf2 and Bf2142 engines are, in a way, worse than the Bf1942 engine. Since many things that were posible in modding for 1942, is imposible in Bf2 or 2142. Anyway its a ok engine, but not great or that flexible.
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darkNight
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Post by darkNight »

This engine sucks so badly. It's horrible to code something.. anyway PR is the best mod for games like this ever.
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Viper5
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Post by Viper5 »

If the Bf2 Engine was really all that bad, would we be here today?
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Post by HughJass »

darkNight wrote:This engine sucks so badly. It's horrible to code something.. anyway PR is the best mod for games like this ever.
hahaha, funny.

You sir, are very ungreatful. this engine was created in 2004, the time HL 2 was released, and manged to support 64 people on a server, with a huge map, actual PHYSICS! all types of vehicals, and great visuals. This game was amazing when it came out, and still amazes me, because many games of today struggle to get 64 players on a server with minimal lag.
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Post by Rangu »

Viper5 wrote:If the Bf2 Engine was really all that bad, would we be here today?
Yeah.
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Alex123
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Post by Alex123 »

After playing Crysis (yeah yeah I know), this game engine feels like it is from the stone age. Even if it isn't reality, the graphics obviously are unsurpassed, the physics (not talkig about the actual mathematical implementation) is just like it should be. Mow down trees with a minigun, blow up buildings, use objects to your advantage, vehicles that can be disabled in so many ways etc. Also weapon customization, and offcourse these little things that engines from well before BF2 already supported like leaning left/right.

All in all, Crysis creates a much better immersion, even for a nonreality game, then PR could ever reach on the BF2 engine. Note immersion!=reality
Sabre_tooth_tigger
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Post by Sabre_tooth_tigger »

Yet PR is more demanding of your attention and so is more immersive then crysis, otherwise I agree
fuzzhead
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Post by fuzzhead »

Name another FPS engine that reliably supports 64+ players and is moddable....
sav112
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Post by sav112 »

Its easy its old and time to move on!
pvt.nouri
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Post by pvt.nouri »

What do you guys think of the Call of duty 4 engine?
Hotrod525
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Post by Hotrod525 »

as long Project Reality will run on BF2 engine ( awaiting Frostbite... ) ill definetly love it.
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