Israeli Army addition

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-03-29 03:13

China is really the only enemy of the US/UK that could possibly win a war against them using conventional tactics. a good fight, that is the only reason.

TII · Post by **TII** » 2006-03-29 03:33

A more realistic scenario would be North Korea/China against SK, Japan and Taiwan ala Falcon 4.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-03-29 03:40

Terranova wrote:Alright. Let me take another whack at the storyline.

Taiwan declares an official decleration of independence. With it, the PRC holds to their word and wages war against the new soverign nation of Taiwan. With that the United States is forced to honor its relations with Taiwan and assist in the fighting. With that this drags Japan into the war since U.S Marines are stationed within the country.

China's very own Navy as well as its Marine Corps were the intial forces sent to Taiwan.

(Some info about the Chinese Marine Corps)
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/orbat/marinecorps.asp

Meanwhile, key targets held in Japan were bombed by Chinese missiles and bombers. Intense dogfights were held between Japanese and U.S aircraft. Until finally China sends its Airborne Corps to Japan to seize and hold key targets until further Chinese troops can reinforce.

(Some info on the Chinese Airborne Corps)
http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/orbat/airborne.asp

Once again the U.S is at war. United States decides to pull out of Iraq and concentrate on the war with China. With this Iraq's own American trained forces will have to deal with the countless insurgents and what not. U.S Naval and Marine forces are sent and deployed from the west coast United States.

This is when China decides to capture "Wake Island 2007". in order to cut off Naval forces headed for the pacific front. After putting up a tough fight over Wake Island, United States finally re-takes it. However by this time Taiwan had fallen. Overwhelmed, Chinese forces had stormed the capitol of Taipei and overthrown the indpendent government of Taiwan.

However the battle for Japan was still running out. With key battles being won on both sides, the outcome was uncertain. However reinforcements from the PLA were comming in fast, and Japan's armed forces along with the 3rd Marine divison stationed there would probably not be enough to hold Japan. The only hope was the Naval fleet comming in previously held up by the battle over Wake Island. China decides to make another suprise move. By invading the Philipines they hope to draw the U.S Navy south to help with it.

Anyhow... this took me forever. Although not fully done its basically how it starts. Perhaps while all of this is happening the MEC start forming up. Since the only date on the BF2 maps seems to be Wake Island 2007. Perhaps the MEC don't even come into play until 2008 to 2010. What do you guys think?

Thats my perspective on how the war with China began. Also, China doesn't have to be sided with the MEC. Nor do they have to be enemies. In fact perhaps the wars are virtually unrelated in a sense. Maybe while we're fighting China the MEC decide to strike two to three years after the Chinese conflict had begun. Also it is likely for the U.S to go to war with China, seeing as they are not only a communist nation, but they are threating to invade Taiwan if they declare independence, which is a U.S backed country.

lonelyjew · Post by **lonelyjew** » 2006-03-29 03:49

It could be as simple as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

wushu1 · Post by **wushu1** » 2006-03-29 03:59

well I do not wish China to go to war with the US, what about all the trading that goes back and forth between each country. That would inevitbly effect each countried economies in an extremely negative way

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-03-29 07:14

i'm sure this thread was called israilli army addition.

the israilli army (in my oppinion) would be a great addition seeing as they are right on the border with iraq there would most likely be under threat from an MEC assault so i believe that their addition would be a good step for the mod.

lonelyjew · Post by **lonelyjew** » 2006-03-29 13:16

Yeah, almost forgot about the Israeli army. Come on guys, are you saying you wouldn't want to blast choppers and jets out of the sky with this thing.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ ... chbet.html

Army Musician · Post by **Army Musician** » 2006-03-29 13:48

Instead of having an MEC, look at it this way Iraq and Iran hate each others guts at the moment so why would they be united. So have the iraqi or iranian army instead of the MEC and have saudi arabia or a country similar aswell. Plus didn't iran said they wanted isreal wiped off the map. So that won't work

Another Idea why not a storyline like 'Die Another Day' James Bond film and have the North Koreans, they most certainly will be allied to the chinese.

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-03-29 14:18

lonelyjew wrote:Yeah, almost forgot about the Israeli army. Come on guys, are you saying you wouldn't want to blast choppers and jets out of the sky with this thing.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ ... chbet.html

that looks suspiciously like a vulcan AA defence vehicle with a box of stingers bolted on to the side.

Arikara · Post by **Arikara** » 2006-03-29 17:39

Pence wrote:We are talking about the MEC, past conflicts between middle eastern country's are irelivent.

Israel would never allow themselves to be taken over, they would sooner nuke themselves and everyone around them then have the Islamics take them over.

Arikara · Post by **Arikara** » 2006-03-29 18:09

Pence, reading a lot of your posts you seem really ignorant to the power of Israel. The IDF are the best trained soldiers and most combat experienced soldiers in the world. The Israeli Air Force could match any Marine, Air Force or Navy pilot. Then you got Mosad, before the so-called "MEC" even got partially off the ground they would know and systamatically whipe them out of existenance. The story behind BF2 is very unplausible. Not only would the Middle Eastern countries not Ally (it is a well known fact that most of them hate each other), if they some how did and invaded Israel the US would have our military their in a flash.

Also, you keep talking about the Havoc, T-90, etc. First of all they wouldn't beable to get their hands on a T-90. The Russians would never sell them it, same with the SU-37 and SU-47. The Mig 29 and SU-34 could not compete with our fighters. We may for the most part use a lot of older planes (70's, 80's) but our weapon systems are so much further advanced. We could send up 5-6 F-14's or F/A-18's against 30 "MEC" Migs and would lose maybe 1 or two planes. But the likely hood of that even happening is near impossible because their air fields would be eliminated before they had the chance the leave the ground.

The simple fact is an MEC would never beable to beat the Israeli's since they would be stopped before they had the chance to get going. The Israeli's have the best intelligence agency in the world and the Mosad would not miss something like that.

"Anyway i am starting to beleave you. America, being the giant it is, has a verry good fighting force but they are not as well trained or well equiped as the British armed forces.
What i am saying is, it is just the same as the MEC and Isreal (That you have explained to me)."

That got me laughing. Thanks for that. The British military is far from better equipped then the US and for the most part our training is on par (except for Army, since they are all a bunch of wimps anyways). The US's spearhead is the Marines, and the Marines are one of the best trained fighting forces in the world and I'm glad to be one of them.

::Edit:: Sorry for double post.

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2006-03-29 21:24

Thank you for saying that.

lonelyjew · Post by **lonelyjew** » 2006-03-30 00:05

LOL, anyways guys, back to the IDF. If the IDF was added in, what kind of maps would you want?

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-03-30 00:34

Jerusalem. "Battle of the Wailing Wall"
there would be no helos or aircraft for Israel though because they can't bomb their Holy City

Elchewbacca · Post by **Elchewbacca** » 2006-03-30 05:43

Somewhere in the Gaza Strip maybe? I hope this suggestion is implemented Isreal kicks ***.

IDF-Godzilla · Post by **IDF-Godzilla** » 2006-03-30 15:47

Hmm...
For desert maps, one in the Sinai desert could be good, fighting desert hills in a wide open area, El-Alamein style map.
For urban fighting you can have somekind of South Lebanon village, forest maps can be fought in South Lebanon also, in green and mountain areas.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-30 19:42

lonelyjew wrote:Pence, is there any point to even arguing with you? I really don't see how you can be so obtuse. I guess you are completely unwilling to take into acount the real world because the one that DICE created is much more realistic.

OMG, i dont understand. The MEC exsist (unrealistic), they have this hardware and they are profetional - all of this is based on the IN-GAME world.

If we take there equipment then we might aswell take the MEC out completly.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-30 19:47

Arikara wrote:Pence, reading a lot of your posts you seem really ignorant to the power of Israel. The IDF are the best trained soldiers and most combat experienced soldiers in the world. The Israeli Air Force could match any Marine, Air Force or Navy pilot. Then you got Mosad, before the so-called "MEC" even got partially off the ground they would know and systamatically whipe them out of existenance. The story behind BF2 is very unplausible. Not only would the Middle Eastern countries not Ally (it is a well known fact that most of them hate each other), if they some how did and invaded Israel the US would have our military their in a flash.

Also, you keep talking about the Havoc, T-90, etc. First of all they wouldn't beable to get their hands on a T-90. The Russians would never sell them it, same with the SU-37 and SU-47. The Mig 29 and SU-34 could not compete with our fighters. We may for the most part use a lot of older planes (70's, 80's) but our weapon systems are so much further advanced. We could send up 5-6 F-14's or F/A-18's against 30 "MEC" Migs and would lose maybe 1 or two planes. But the likely hood of that even happening is near impossible because their air fields would be eliminated before they had the chance the leave the ground.

The simple fact is an MEC would never beable to beat the Israeli's since they would be stopped before they had the chance to get going. The Israeli's have the best intelligence agency in the world and the Mosad would not miss something like that.

"Anyway i am starting to beleave you. America, being the giant it is, has a verry good fighting force but they are not as well trained or well equiped as the British armed forces.
What i am saying is, it is just the same as the MEC and Isreal (That you have explained to me)."

That got me laughing. Thanks for that. The British military is far from better equipped then the US and for the most part our training is on par (except for Army, since they are all a bunch of wimps anyways). The US's spearhead is the Marines, and the Marines are one of the best trained fighting forces in the world and I'm glad to be one of them.

::Edit:: Sorry for double post.

You said; Also, you keep talking about the Havoc, T-90, etc. First of all they wouldn't beable to get their hands on a T-90.
What??? They have this stuff - hello Mr marine wake up, look IN-GAME to what the MEC have.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-03-30 20:16

He's talking about IRL

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2006-03-30 21:29

Pence... The MEC army is unrealistic as it is in BF2.

Read that 7 times, and convince yourself it is true. Otherwise... please stop arguing you're incompetent point.