apaches cannon dispursion?

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ralfidude
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apaches cannon dispursion?

Post by ralfidude »

I know the apache is under work for .8 but im still iffy about the cannon... its not very realistic to the real thing. Arma has gone and made it very very much like it is. Im only talking abotu how the bullets are not hittign exactly where ur aiming at, this vid shows how its "about" in the general area of ur cursor.

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Post by Mora »

The zoom levels on Arma always bugs me, the zoom goes in stages not like a zooming photo camera. Anyway i guess it could use some spread don't know about the bullet drop. Hud definitely needs a change and get rid of the stupit static.
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This is something I been thinking about to.
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Post by MarineSeaknight »

Along with dispursion of rounds, as seen in my attached video, I'd also like to see the camera shake when firing off the rounds:

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Post by Conman51 »

yea the shaking cam would be nice... i think they something like it on the apc
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Post by ralfidude »

Oh yeah i forgot about the shaking. THat last video from seaking shows an even greater spread, but i think its got to do with how high the gunship was, that one seems to be very high up in alt right there. But its something that needs to be implemented, no more gunship sniping, its ridiculous.
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Post by Mora »

Thing is the apache gun is very accurate but not while on the move if the apache hovers he can almost make head shots :P

In pr we cannot simulate this. Or we can as when the apache moves its very hard to hit any targets without any kind of stabilization and even when there was stabilization it would still be very hard to do.
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Post by Razick »

Im fairly sure that they are firing from stand off range. Were talking upwards of two miles. Best PR can do is half a mile. Most gunships do not get nearly as close as they you would normally in game.
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Well... i dont know, but from what iv seen the dispursion is huge. All the gunships do nowadays is just sit ontop of the clouds and rain hell with cannon and missiles too effectively. At that range we should give more deviation. Wont render it useless.

Oh i also found a perfect HUD video for cobra, i was looking for something like this for many weeks.

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Post by Mora »

Hmm interesting.
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Post by ralfidude »

soooooooo im guessing the DEVs have no word on this?
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Post by Mora »

Nope, these are things are "low priority" i guess.
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Also the word you're looking for is 'dispersion'.
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Post by Spaz »

The thing with IRL is that they are miles away from the target, in pr we are at max 1000m thats nothing for a attack helicopter irl.
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Post by sav112 »

That looks fantastic. never played ARMA but this looks to good to be true. first Video i seen there I thought this is sick its a real video of people getting shot!
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Post by Waaah_Wah »

Outlawz wrote:Also the word you're looking for is 'dispersion'.
Or "spread"...
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Post by IAJTHOMAS »

Spaz wrote:The thing with IRL is that they are miles away from the target, in pr we are at max 1000m thats nothing for a attack helicopter irl.
And IRL AA missiles would be able to engage from one end of the map to the other...

Clearly due to the size of PR maps air engagement needs to be "scaled down" to fit on the maps.
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Post by ralfidude »

exactly, if everything is scaled down, then we perceive the max visual range in PR as the max range for those choppers IRL. Its just fair that way, why the hell not ya know? It sbad enough the way it is to get sniped like that. Give it some fun stuff for the gunner to look foreward to, hehe. All other guns got deviation.....
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