ACOG - Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-04-17 22:17

Cerberus wrote:I just looked it up and apparently the M16A4 has a MER of 800 meters. Crazy!

Remember, that's 800 meters against an area target; i.e., enemy infantry units in the open or partially exposed. Against a point target, a single enemy, 500-600 meters is more likely.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-04-17 22:18

Yeah, on another website, it said the M16A2's MER was 550m

K.Larsen · Post by **K.Larsen** » 2006-04-17 22:22

True, but the M16 has more than twice the range of the AK, so my point stands.

Deuce6 · Post by **Deuce6** » 2006-04-18 02:45

Pence wrote:This is not standard for US forces, the British soldiers fit SUSAT as standard. Haveing said that they may be fitted to USMC players weapons for the suspected Recon class.

It was standard in my bn. All our designated marksmen had them. And the squad leaders could have them if they wanted.

Deuce6 · Post by **Deuce6** » 2006-04-18 02:50

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker']Remember, that's 800 meters against an area target; i.e., enemy infantry units in the open or partially exposed. Against a point target, a single enemy, 500-600 meters is more likely.

^ exactly. Area targets are more for weapons like the SAW, 240, M203, etc. Those are area weapons. Your not just going for one spot per say, but a large area. A point target weapon is more like a sniper rifle, to dumb it down a bit.

If your going to put an optic on a machine gun, go with the MGO. It's an area weapon sight. It's not designed to be used on an assault rifle.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-18 02:59

bring on the weapons jams! i cant wait to relive my moments shooting the m-16...
"this is sweet! aweso... WTF? D@#$T PEICE OF S%$T *smacks weapon on the ground* Aaaaah. thats better"

Deuce6 · Post by **Deuce6** » 2006-04-18 03:01

I've never had a jam on my weapon. Well, once when the extractor was messed up.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-18 03:47

you use an m-4, correct? different gun.

"A US serviceman cleans his rifle every day so that when he goes into combat, he can be sure that it will perform its duty. A Russian serviceman cleans his rifle once a month to keep his quartermaster happy."-love that quote

BTW i'm not bashing the m-16. i love it. it is accurate and feels very comfortable in one's hands. The reliability is nowhere close to that of an AK, though.

K.Larsen · Post by **K.Larsen** » 2006-04-18 10:16

It has the same direct gas system and jams just as often as the M16. However with propper and regular cleaning the AR-15 is not to unreliable.

EDIT: Random jams would be really cool!

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-04-18 14:44

JellyBelly wrote:Yea. I personaly would like to see the SF kit gone too and replaced with a more workable kit.

As for scopes, I want an ECLAN on my SAW!

Christ, can you imagine that. The best weapon in PRM just got better.

fully auto sniper

Solitas · Post by **Solitas** » 2006-04-18 19:42

Honestly I'm open to any kind of optical sight on Assault rifles. Befeore I started playing PR I was using the L85A1 as Medic alot, it just feels weird playing medic without a sight now lol

weidel · Post by **weidel** » 2006-04-19 10:18

Well, and since everybody who are all in for MEC talks about a conflict 5-10 years out in the future, I guess the marine corps have had the time to give every single rifleman some kind of optical sight, be it an ACOG, aimpoint or similar device. I guess we would even see a completely different loadout within that timeframe...

Tacticsniper815 · Post by **Tacticsniper815** » 2006-04-23 02:30

Pence wrote:This is not standard for US forces, the British soldiers fit SUSAT as standard. Haveing said that they may be fitted to USMC players weapons for the suspected Recon class.

Special Forces Air Borne likes to use them on their M4s alot but its not really issued to them

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-23 02:33

i really, really ,really want an ACOG on either the assault's m16 or the spec ops m4. or even better would be allowing me to play assault, with and m4 ACOG!

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-04-23 04:42

Tacticsniper815 wrote:Special Forces Air Borne likes to use them on their M4s alot but its not really issued to them

Yes, it is.

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2006-04-23 10:47

yay, a radioactive sight